willing to bet the driver of the tiny truck has a bigger... ahem
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Fuel range? Yea probably
Body shaming is not okay.
Neither is trashing the climate with pointlessly big vehicles just to compensate for whatever insecurities they have. We need to either tax or regulate these stupid vehicles back to a reasonable and safe size.
It's not just big vehicles that do that. For instance I wouldn't call a supra a big vehicle but when they wake me up at 3 AM because they have to be louder than fire sirens I feel like that is compensating as well.
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Death wish? I love kei trucks but I fear getting into a mash up in one of them.
*nervous laughter in cyclist*
Exactly. Death wish is inversely proportional to vehicle size.
But only one can crush a toddler without you even feeling it.
Buy the new Ford Infanticide 5000. You're American. You deserve it.
Not just toddlers. All children under ten are invisible!
Gotta appreciate the writers on GTA 6, reality is going to make that a really hard gig.
One is a truck made for actual work and the other is an abomination pretending to be a truck.
Towing capacity, payload weight, carrying 3 more people, bed width, drivetrain? I think many trucks are way too big, and it's silly to own a big work truck if you just use it to go to the grocery store but it's really about so much more than bed size.
Yes but one is for work while the other is a compensation device
the larger one does do more:
- Pick up 3 extra people
- Can roll down the back window to let long planks of wood through
These are the only extra advantages I can see, and they are seldom use cases at best.
Fine, if you're a contractor driving your workers to/from work whilst carrying all the equipment, on a daily basis, such a truck is very useful.
But how many people who drive these do that?
Nobody does work out of that truck, it has a bed cover and the wheels don't look like they have any mud or dirt caked in the tread/wheels. It's a little pavement princess that probably carries one person 75% of the time.
25% is really high. I doubt most of these ever see another ass.
Also, one of these actually needs and uses the bed, the other one doesn't.
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I really like my 2003 Ford ranger. It's small, but can still haul enough that it works perfectly fine for when I'm picking up dirt for my garden. But also it's definitely not fuel efficient in the way that I'd want it to be. I wish they made something that size but newer.
Small????
Man, I tried finding one of those cool websites where you can put like two cars together to compare their size. But it doesn't have the year of my ranger. But yeah, they're smaller than the new trucks by a lot. And they weigh about half as much. If you can get one of the older Toyota's or like a cool little Datsun, they're a little bit smaller, but really kind of in the mid 2000s was when trucks really started blowing up in size and absurdity.
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But since the kei truck cannot travel over 55 mph, that makes it more dangerous!
I don't get where all the chunkiness came from. Even ignoring the bed length and width, what is all that extra height doing?
EPA regulations that car manufacturers used as a way to game the system by not focusing on ICE efficency, hybridization, transitioning to electric sooner.
This is the same reason sedans have gotten larger or disappeared in favor of "cross-overs".
Making insecure men feel better about themselves.
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No clue why people buy kei cars from Japan when they can pick up the left hand drive version of the kei cars from Taiwan.
If I want to get a small truck or something similar what can you recommend that's available in North America? (Serious)
You can buy a really old small truck.
Basically have to import something due to the silly laws around new trucks. Kei trucks (the cool one in the picture) now cost a lot but are great.
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And they look to have the same/comparable ride height/total height
It's wider though right
Kinda, Not really.
The Suzuki Carry has a bed width of 1585mm (62.4") the Silverado has a max bed width of 64.8" (1646mm) so 60mm/2.5" wider. But the Silverado's bed isn't rectangular, ie if you want to lay something flat, the widest it can be is 50" (1270mm). That's a foot narrower than the Suzuki.
The Silverado has higher walls which imo isn't really a plus or minus. (More bulk materials, and less need to tie things down, but harder to access the things).
There are a lot of other differences in available configurations. I think the reason a lot of people prefer Silverados boil down to esthetics, and the perceptions of others. I think that for a lot of men, pickup trucks are an expression of their masculinity. They want something big and powerful that they can take into the woods and be manly^tm^ with.
A Carry is very practical and if I owned a landscaping business I think that's what I'd want my crews to be driving.
But also, I'm not a business owner. I'm a man and I get it. Honestly I'd way rather own that enormous impractical pickup. I'm more likely to be hauling hockey gear than lumber and drywall. I'm tall and girthy, I appreciate a spacious cab. I have child seats in my car.
Maybe men should stop pretending they don't care a lot about fun.
Edit to add: but I do agree we need society to be less car/truck centric.
The Suzuki Carry, like many kei trucks has foldable bed sidewalls, like those home Depot trucks. So Americans would never go for it as it's not sexy.
At $14,000 for a used 94 variant, not sure if it's worth it.
It's not about what you have, it's what you do with it. I have carried things in my small sedan that you would never believe. You are just underestimating japanese tech and Mexican capacity for not giving an f.
And taller. And it can haul far more weight. And simultaneously carry a team of workers.
Haven't seen a single one of those (right) hauling workers. On the other (left) hand, I've seen those haul workers every single time.
That's anecdotal evidence, I've never even seen a kei truck in real life but that doesn't mean I think they aren't out there, and sure you could fit a couple guys up front. But I've seen plenty of teams of 4 or sometimes even more come piling out of a work truck. I'm currently in one with four people right now! And just to be clear I agree there are far too many trucks and not every suburban dad needs one, but you blame the driver not the truck. There are absolutely instances where a full size truck is the best vehicle for the job, just like there are instances where a kei truck makes far more sense.
Of course, but that doesn't mean one should get it. If you are gonna haul wood once a year, you are not BUYING a log trailer and just tow it behind you vehicle through the city all year - like a sensible person, you rent one for a day or two.
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Is it true that the truck bed on those yank tanks are basically unusable due to height or shape or something, and are purely cosmetic?
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Honestly, the smaller truck looks like it might have a larger truck bed.
Yeah, but what if you needed to haul a team of volunteers to do disaster relief with a 9,000 pound trailer filled with water and food and then use the empty bed to haul debris away while rescuing survivors from the flood waters?
Checkmate anti-truckers!
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