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My old person trait is that I think 'ghosting' is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

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[–] doleo@lemmy.one 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found the left-wing extremist! /s

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[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i’m gonna go one further:

i think everybody should be allowed to live a decent enough life, whether they can work or not.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll go even further and say that meeting the needs of a population is the only point of having a society at all.

that almost sounds like… anticapitalist propaganda! Can’t have that! Back to your cubicle, worker #33458!

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[–] chon@lemmy.sdf.org 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Come to open source... you don't have to rent or buy software. Find yourself a good alternative.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

They happened because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

  1. Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and... make more money.

  2. Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and... make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a "lost sale," not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

  1. This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.

  2. Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and... shocker... make more money.


I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn't teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is "Fuck you, got mine." (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

In other words, these aren't old people opinions. These are "I'm not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly" opinions.

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[–] nik282000@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it's functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn't going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an 'infotainment' system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

[–] Indie@lemmy.fmhy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree with this one.

I drive an old 06 and I much prefer using the the physical buttons to adjust things like music, volume, air settings. Even prefer using it to back up and having to use my mirrors and look back.

My '18 vehicle is all touch screen, cameras,etc. While the a/c functions better and I don't feel like my fillings are going to fall out from all the rattles and bumps, I find there is a real disconnect. I am even asked by others why I lean over and look at the back window when reversing.

I work in tech and I don't trust tech.

[–] onlinely@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

“If you think technology will solve your problems, you don't understand technology—and you don't understand your problems.” - Bruce Schneier

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[–] lobelia581@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 year ago

my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore

[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 53 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My old person trait is that when I purchase a printer, I should be able to use whatever is the cheapest compatible ink without the printer treating me like I'm smuggling unicorn blood out of Narnia

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[–] smoll_pp_operator@vlemmy.net 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I prefer written guides to video guides.

Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.

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[–] Mr_Grumpy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

As someone who works in a call center, screw that last person on here. So sorry you hate the automated system. Sorry you had to wait on hold. They can't keep enough of us employed because y'all are fucking mean and no one wants to be abused for $15/hr.

Er, I mean, Thank you for calling, sorry about your wait!

[–] evilgiraffe666@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't you think you could both be victims? Waiting for ages listening to a 13 second loop of music interspersed with "your call is important to us" might make people a bit more angry?

You should be mad at the people who gain financially from it, and could make it better for you and the customers, but might have to skip that third yacht for little Timmy.

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[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago

I had two friends quit call centers within a month of joining because it immediately sent them into a depression.

I'm sorry for everything you have to deal with at work.

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[–] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An urge to destroy fascism.

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago

I think I should be allowed to order food from a restaurant without needing to scan a QR code which requires me to have a smart phone and an active, paid plan in order to access their menu.

[–] Calabast@vlemmy.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

In regards to OP's comment about ghosting, I just want to ask, are you a man? Because women all-too-often have to deal with men who can't take no for an answer, and some of those men go from mad to violent very quickly. You might say "well, no man should act that way, they should be able to hear 'I don't want to see you anymore' and just accept it and move on" but the fact is they are not all able to do that. So should women do the respectful thing and stop ghosting, even though some of them definitely WILL end up being yelled at/attacked/killed?

(I know my example doesn't cover all situations involving ghosting, like for instance if the ghoster is a man. If you want to modify your claim to be 'ghosting is unacceptable, except in cases where having a face-to-face conversation could put someone in danger' then I guess I'd agree with that statement. It's just that it's really hard to know which person will be dangerous when they are turned down.)

[–] tchotchony@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, at the very least scratch the "face to face". I'd be more inclined to agree if a message or a call is acceptable, but some guys you really, really don't want to see in person a second time.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I hate all websites that move things around as they load. If I see a button, that button should stay where it is when I try to click it.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 31 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Owning physical media > "owning" digital media.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

My actual old people trait is that there should be two spaces after a period. I will die on this stupid fucking hill. Even though computers automatically change it to one space. Like here.

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[–] mawkler@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

These aren't "old person traits". It's common sense.

[–] OttoVonGoon 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using the term "common-sense" in reference to specific, complex preferences is definitely an old person trait.

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[–] neardeaf@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is only tipping if someone is actually providing a service for me. I don’t tip at all if I’m lifting a finger for anything.

[–] Senuf 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

But I'll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support... er... living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

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[–] relevant_user_name@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old person trait is I shouldn't have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I'm dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

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[–] Mandy 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Dumb TVs, its either 1.5k plus or you will literally never find one. I don't wanna be profiled or have some stupid android is on it. All it needs to do is display images on screen.

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[–] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have a few. And I'm not even that old (mid thirties)

  • People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they're utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.

  • people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like...why pay money to go see a gig if you're going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

  • Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

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[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like having a keyboard and mouse. Doing things on a smartphone is a last resort.

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[–] fiasco@possumpat.io 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mine is that a cellphone should be a phone first, instead of being a shitty computer first and a celllphone as a distant afterthought.

[–] cornbread@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This might be the only actual old person trait in this thread (OP included). The rest is basically just “I don’t want to be fucked over.”

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My old person trait is that I want to not be milked for data

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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is that I think kids today are underinformed and overopinionated, especially when it causes them to hold opinions with which I disagree. All other times the kids are alright.

[–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My fucking back hurts. Knee joints as well. And I think socializing is overrated.

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[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can't tell if this is face value mockery of younger generations willingly submitting to being fucked over by corporations for profit (maybe because of dependance on the convenience of modern technology), or if this is actually younger people making light of the abysmal state of consumer protection (probably caused by the older generation).

Maybe it's Poe's law, maybe it's a bit of both, or maybe this is just my own old person trait.

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[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of these "old person traits" are stuff most people agree with, just like r/unpopularopinion. We've been cursed with reddit.

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[–] neocamel@vlemmy.net 17 points 1 year ago

My old person trait is when someone offers me coffee, I look at my watch.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't want an iPad glued to my car's dashboard. Touch screens are fine but the current screen sizes and placement are ridiculous. It's a car, the screen shouldn't be distracting you.

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[–] Navarian@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Likely an outdated one, or one that's already been given a number of times, but – Physical Books.

I'm not entirely 'anti' e-reader, the benefits are obvious. I'm just VERY pro physical book.

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[–] smallerdemon@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am old, so, you know, lots of them. ;) (58 next week) - Black coffee. Stick shift. Movies in the theater. Undershirts. Frugality. etc.

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[–] stappern@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

you dont owe anybody jack shit LOL

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I kinda agree with you op on ghosting being unacceptable, but NOBODY is entitled to see my face NO ONE. It is not ghosting to straight up tell someone "I am no longer interested in continuing to stay in contact with you."

Likewise, my old person trait is the belief that your identity and all details pertaining to it are PERSONAL including voice, likeness, biometric statistics, location, interests - basically, the default human presence online is TEXT ONLY AND NO DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING CONCRETE until and unless they choose to intentionally disclose more, and nobody, not one mother FUCKING person OR THING has the right to demand of you any more than that. Lastly, that you should guard your information greedily and viciously.

[–] shadowfly@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Just installed a messenger. It uses more RAM than my first PC had for displaying a simple, empty list. I find that inexcusable.
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[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah that line was used by my abusers way to often. They just "can't understand" why I'd go no contact. As if the last 300 explanations were somehow non existent. Nope. I don't owe you anything.

And my old person trait is my walking stick I suppose.

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