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Who are we, youtube? Lol but seriously, can’t downvote I get a red bar saying problem voting. I can upvote though.

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[–] GraceGH 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Downvote are disabled on this instance. Its not a bug, its a feature!

[–] AndrewZabar 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would they be disabled? Doesn’t that skew the merit of pretty much everything?

[–] Thalestr 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The merit comes from the content of the post not a pointless number tacked onto it. This isn't reddit.

[–] Sordid 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If the numbers were pointless, there would be no reason to disable them.

[–] azureeight 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's working pretty well. Only complaints are people who didn't read and see it's disabled.

Why would you join an instance with downvotes explicitly stated not to be in use in multiple places, to just complain and ask to change it when you can easily join others that have downvotes?

[–] Sordid 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That is true but not really relevant to what I said. By saying that it's working pretty well, you're in fact confirming my point that the presence or absence of downvotes matters. If they truly didn't matter, Beehaw would have no reason to disable them. Or, if Beehaw wanted to be a lightweight experience with no unnecessary fluff, it would remove both downvotes and upvotes.

[–] PascalSausage 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don’t think the idea is that it doesn’t matter, I think the idea is that if you disagree with someone, you should put some effort into it. On Reddit, the downvote function only really works to hide and punish opinions that the community sees as bad, which doesn’t really contribute very much in that respect. Upvotes work for indicating agreement because if you agree with a point you probably don’t have much to add to it, and if you do, you can both upvote and reply.

[–] Sordid 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think the idea is that it doesn’t matter

Good, then we're in agreement.

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[–] WhelmedInEurope 36 points 2 years ago

Not a mod, but this came up here: https://beehaw.org/comment/29314 and is linked in the Beehaw FAQ post about downvotes being disabled. The context is in the comment thread linked there.

From what I understand, the main reasoning was that if you want to disagree with someone you have to put some thought and effort into it such as a comment which could be a jumping off point to a discussion.

[–] ndr 33 points 2 years ago

In general, not talking directly to OP, it is important to read about the instance you're joining to make sure you're in the right place.

[–] bbbhltz 23 points 2 years ago

The "no downvoting" was the selling point for me on this instance. Love it.

You like; you vote.
Don't like; keep on scrolling.

If I were to post an opinionated piece or even comment, let's say, "Cryptocurrency is a scam," and I start getting loads of upvotes this post might be "hot" or whatever. But, then the Cryptocurrency gang rolls on in and starts downvoting me to oblivion. Now it looks like I posted some silly nonsense. People aren't even going to look at it. What if I had just given the most awesome advice or perfect answer, and just because someone on the net disagrees and things I am wrong it starts a battle between strangers?

No. Thank you.

[–] SomethingBurger 17 points 2 years ago

Downvotes are disabled on Beehaw.

[–] retronautickz 11 points 2 years ago

Downvotes are disabled because they add nothing to the conversation/discussion

[–] PascalSausage 11 points 2 years ago

Beehaw like many other instances doesn't have downvoting enabled.

[–] AndrewZabar 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can someone explain the rationale behind downvotes being disabled?

[–] azureeight 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What good is a downvote? It doesn't say anything. If you dislike something, reply in rebuttal. Then you're explaining the issue with a comment, and people can judge from there.

Votes arent calculated anyway. The mods and admins handle reports, so anything distasteful gets removed. If you dislike a post but cant bother to rebuke it, why should you just downvote it? The poster put some effort into the post, the least you can do a reply.

[–] AndrewZabar 4 points 2 years ago

Makes sense!

[–] kalanggam 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the big reasons IMO is that people, especially on Reddit, vote extremely inconsistently.

For info on this, you can read our docs here.

[–] karbonkel 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My experience is that, in a sense, it was actually extremely consistent. People see a comment with a score of 0 or -1 (or lower) and they downvote it. It's a direct signal from the eyes to the the hands; the brain doesn't process it. They see a top comment and they upvote it, without checking the comment for correctness.

[–] Evergreen5970 7 points 2 years ago

I admit I never checked a comment for correctness and upvoted because it looked right, but I also never ever downvoted because I saw a low score and can’t actually imagine real people did that. They were already folded down if they were like -24, and I usually upvoted reasonable but unpopular stuff (common source of a 0 or -1). Downvote trains are for people saying slurs and spammers.