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Tracking calories for weight loss, I realized that milk is "heavy", and I poured a lot of it into my coffee. Now I can think of better use for these calories (in solid form) in my <2000kcal deficit plan.

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[–] rstein@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Soy milk has about half the calories as cow milk (and is friendlier for climate), perhaps that can save your coffee.

[–] SnorriSturluson@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

absolutely, but sadly it's much more expensive, at least here in Germany.

[–] eyaddo@mastodon.uno 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@SnorriSturluson @rstein And that's what I don't really understand. How can skipping the middleman (or middlecow in this case) make a product more *expensive*??

[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU subsidies and competitive pricing stuff happening for cow milk (it’s one of these products supermarkets consider essential and thus they aim to compete with Aldi prices). Also for soy products since they are considered “lifestyle” products producers and stores assume they can make more profit from those.

[–] rstein@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And here in Germany we have a VAT (MwSt) of 19% on plant milks and 7% on cow milk. Because cow milk is „essential“.

[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

totally nuts, I agree

[–] tatzelkatz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Discounters like Aldi or Lidl are selling soy and oat milk for prices only a little higher than cow milk.

[–] aqua@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The taste of soymilk is far superior too, imo.

[–] rstein@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Just an acquired taste. I missed the taste of milk for half a year. Now 5 years later I prefer my brand of soy or a barista oat milk.

[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

If it works for your tastebuds it is a nice option I guess, I rather drink coffee “black” or non coffee though as I could not get used to the taste or rather it just does not generate that satisfactory feeling for me..

[–] tyler@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much did it add up to per day? I don’t drink milk so I had no clue it’s so caloric dense.

[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

From 140 to 240 Kilo calories for me depending on the day. As I stick to <2000 kcal I can definitely budget something else for that amount

[–] Arwenac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It does depend on how much what milk you use, how much milk you use and how many cups of coffee you drink. I think 50 ml of semi-skimmed milk (1.5% fat) is around 22 calories. Now if you keep it to one or two cups that is pretty doable I think. But it does depend on you budget.

I try to eat between 1200 and 1500 so I do think every bit helps. Plus I only drink one cup at work so it is doable.

But I'll be honest I mostly drink no milk in my coffee anymore and just use some artificial sweetener. But I might splurge on one with frothed milk sometimes.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Heard THAT!

Even veggie milks seem so high in Kcals, altho getting -plain- veggie milk without sugar does help from that standpoint.

When I make coffee these days, I just use some of the powdered stuff. As a non-coffee connoisseur, it's 'good enough,' and low in ~~BS~~ kcals, salt, sugar, etc.

Another substitution I'm head over heels with is using plain Greek yogurt in place of sour cream and even cheese, to an extent. It's impressively low in calories, a decently-tasty substitute, and full of nice probiotics for gut, brain, and total-body health. :-)

Join us at !coffee@lemmy.world and learn how to make a great cup of coffee. I didn't like black coffee before either but with fresh beans and a Hario V60 it became a lot more enjoyable. Now, a few years later, it's a hobby for me (and a lot of other people).

[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, I always thought of it as mostly water. How long ago did you make this change?

[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aqua@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

yeah. but milk with 1.5% fat still has half the amount in sugar (in the form of lactose) as compared to coke https://fddb.info/db/en/food/dairy_milk_15percent_fat/index.html

[–] BetaAssimilation 2 points 1 year ago

For me I just had to be a lot more thoughtful about it. I still use about a quarter cup (~60ml, 37cal) in my morning tea, but instead of having my tea like that 4-5x a day, I have 1-2 cups of tea like that and then have switched to other teas that I don’t put any or as much milk in. So I didn’t cut it out entirely, but I definitely did reduce my usage.

[–] defcon42@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I switched from milk to black a couple of months ago.

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