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[–] millie 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've been watching a lot of old 80s and 90s movies recently, and I noticed something starkly different from most of the movies I've seen coming out in the past decade or so, particularly the glut of superhero movies we had for a while there. With very few exceptions, all the protagonists were anti-establishment.

Star Wars, Ghostbusters, the Mario Movie, the Breakfast Club, the Princess Bride, it goes on and on and on. The heroes were all rebelling against some ignorant authority that either didn't understand the damage it was able to do or didn't care about hurting those who had no power. As a result, when I was coming up my generation felt very much against the established status quo. Even the kid-targeted stuff in the early 90s, it was all gross-out humor and struggling against adult authority in favor of personal autonomy. Nickelodeon takes over your school. As a teenager it was grunge and punk and everything being 'extreme'.

The impression I get from a lot of the late 00s and 2010s fictional media, though, and much of what I've seen in the 20s so far, has been stories that are on-side with some big establishment. Even Peter Parker was turned into a suck-up for some billionaire. There are still instances of anti-authoritarianism, but it doesn't seem to be the prevailing narrative the way it was. Instead it largely seems to be about going along with society and not bucking the system.

Maybe what we need, if we want to change things, is to instill that pushing against the establishment in the next generation again. That 70s and 80s era Muppets vibe. Turtles that live in the sewers because if they lived on the surface, the powers that be wouldn't understand them. Otters living in poverty and being exploited by hoity-toity customers who decide not to pay them for their laundry services on Christmas in the first five minutes of the movie.

Did Chris Pratt Mario get into a chase with Koopa cops while fighting a corrupt authoritarian government? No he did not. He was on the side of a social order that was being disrupted by an evil musician.

Artists need to change the narrative and be intentional about it.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Star Wars, Ghostbusters, the Mario Movie, the Breakfast Club, the Princess Bride, it goes on and on and on. The heroes were all rebelling against some ignorant authority that either didn’t understand the damage it was able to do or didn’t care about hurting those who had no power. As a result, when I was coming up my generation felt very much against the established status quo. Even the kid-targeted stuff in the early 90s, it was all gross-out humor and struggling against adult authority in favor of personal autonomy. Nickelodeon takes over your school. As a teenager it was grunge and punk and everything being ‘extreme’.

And what did Gen X get out of it? To be so forgotten as a generation that everybody else thinks we're Boomers!

Ask anybody who's not a Gen Xer to list out the current generations and they will, without fail, say: "Boomers, Millennials, Zoomers, and whatever Alphas are going to turn into"

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what have we done as a generation to be remembered for? We gave in to nihilism and cynicism and did nothing.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

That's not true. The cynicism gave us critical thinking skills to navigate through the bullshit we live with on the internet now. If anything, Millennials and Zoomers are more corporate friendly than ever, consuming whatever the doomscrollers tell them to.

[–] millie 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Imagine straddling the Gen X/Millennial line. We doubly don't exist.

What did we get out of it, though? Kind of a lot, actually.

We legalized marijuana in a lot of places, got marriage equality in a lot of places, and did actually push some positive changes in general. How long they'll last? How many survive even now? Eh.. Well, that depends on how well we manage to get out from under the shadow of the boomers and bring our ideals to the next generations.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Well, that depends on how well we manage to get out from under the shadow of the boomers and bring our ideals to the next generations.

It's too late for that. The last meaningful bill that got passed was Obamacare, and even that was watered down and didn't do much to solve the healthcare crisis.

Whatever government benefits we are holding on to will be gutted in the next four years, and American democracy will be dismantled within the next decade.

Welcome to the final goal of late-stage capitalism: anarcho-capitalism. We'll be paying for our fire departments and police protections before you know it.

[–] pbjamm 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get ready for the Tank Girl future of water shortages.

[–] millie 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I literally changed my discord profile to a Tank Girl theme hours before Trump was elected when I was still pretty sure it'd be Harris. Yeesh.