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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would not object to a law banning establishments from requesting tips before service has been provided.

[–] invno1@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They shouldn't request tips at all. Tips only should be provided if a customer feels like the service was above and beyond normal.

[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, but that's a societal and cultural change. I'm talking about a legal change.

[–] Nikelui@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a legal solution too. It's called: regulate the minimum wages.

[–] lysy@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI: Denmark doesn't have minimum wage.
Guess what's the difference between minimum salary of McDonalds worker in Denmark vs USA.
Keyword: labor union.

[–] a_rational_llama@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure the invisible hand of the free market will sort it out and arrive at an optimal solution soon.

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 2 points 1 year ago

At payment wait staff will tip the customer. Whoever tipped highest wins bourgeois status for the day.

[–] Jo@readit.buzz 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not true in the US. They have a tipped minimum wage; there, if you're not tipping you're stealing someone's labour.

It is a sucky system, as the buried lede in that article shows:

However, data from the very checkout system that prompted tipping revealed disparities in pay. Neitzel noticed that Black employees were earning less tips than their White counterparts.

But, until it is burned to the ground, that is the system and (in the US) you should not use it to exploit people.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Technically the employer is stealing their labour, the customer is paying the advertised price in a perfectly legal exchange.

If the staff don't like this, they need to unionise and fight the employer to pay a proper living wage.

[–] invno1@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Some areas in the US have tipped minimum wage. Some areas have an actual minimum wage that is paid regardless of tips. Don't accuse others of exploiting people when it is truly the employer backed up by the local state law. Blame your state and do something about it.

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