melonplant

joined 1 year ago

Anticompetitive practices shouldn't be this mainstream and obvious

Thanks for sharing, I had no idea there was a messaging format like XMPP

That's a really cool idea!

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's gotta wait for one of his real users to post it to twitter

At payment wait staff will tip the customer. Whoever tipped highest wins bourgeois status for the day.

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed but the same benefits as a full time employee would be a start.

It's gotten worse very recently. Agreed they are usually on top of complaints. Keep in mind Amazon charges third party sellers a ton and passes the fees on to us, so they can afford a refund here and there.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamdanziger/2021/02/05/amazons-third-party-marketplace-is-its-cash-cow-not-aws/?sh=908742521c03

Like all companies they're shifting to shaft the user.

This one's just a bit of nostalgia from the slavery days for them.

I thought I had cringe resistance.

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a similar thought I've been mulling with giving each server their own unique currency that would function like server "equity." Voting on moderation, federation, etc could be handled through it.

If a server elects to, they could ask users to "buy in" to a server at registration. This could help cover hosting costs while still giving the user something.

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Splitting hairs, but I think rather than implementing a partial defederation, I think it would be better to set user rights for a given federation instance. Some federations you might want to allow view only access, access to a certain "tier" of communities, etc. Make the rights customizable so its as granular as needed by the server.

[–] melonplant@latte.isnot.coffee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Definitely agree with you, though I'm not sure if it's reddit sponsored, users who don't know what they're talking about, or some other motivation.

I saw a post that said it has a large number of tankies and Nazis but have yet to find either.

 

I had an idea that I wanted to run by people that are more familiar with lemmy and decentralized hosting. I've run it by some people I know but they don't have the familiarity with the fediverse to have it easily explained. The idea is not fully fleshed out so would love any sort of criticism or refinement this group could offer! And, apologies if i'm describing something that's been discussed to death or been done before.

What if servers came with their own currencies/tokens and ledger?

When an admin hosts a server they get a pool of currency that they can issue out, either as "karma" or in exchange for fiat currency to fund server hosting. For smaller servers this currency could be disregarded, but as servers grow and become more relevant in the greater fediverse, the currency/karma could grow to be valuable.

This "Currency" would be transferable to any other member of a server in any amount - as karma, in exchange for services, or whatever.

Additionally, the currency could be used for voting, maybe on admin teams or moderation policies. These could all be at the discretion of the host. I believe it would be best that the admin team has full control of the currency and the ledger but haven't ironed all that out yet.

This would encourage a number of valuable behaviors:

  1. Users would be encouraged to enrich their local communities
  2. Servers would be encouraged to moderate their servers so their currency is viewed as valuable by other communities
  3. Funding of servers by the user base is a bit like equity - you buy in to a server but anyone is free to treat the currency as meaningless or as gold
  4. Bad actor servers currency would be meaningless and irrelevant. If a host is acting in bad faith, the users with no stakes can freely migrate to another server. Ones with a stake can pressure the host to cut it out.

To take it to a mid developed system, I see users of prominent servers with large shares of the currencies as being valuable - they either started the community or were important to its establishment. If I see a post on a programming thread from a user who has 15% of currency of a prominent Computer discussion server, I may choose to value their opinion more heavily. Or not, but more info is always better I think.

In a late stage system, assuming I'm not overlooking something, I really feel like this would be an awesome place to be.

 

Hi all, first time posting. I've tried googling a bit but its not totally clear to me. Say I have servers A, B, C, and D.

Can servers A and B federate, and then separately C and D federate?

If so, can A B and C be federated, but separately C and D be federated, so D is not recognized as federated for A?

If A, B, C, and D are federated, and it becomes apparent that D is a bad actor, how does D become defederated?

I feel like these kinds of situations are critical to ensure long term success. I really appreciate any answers anyone can provide!

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