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[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 177 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow the internet really took a nosedive the last few months.

[–] z500@startrek.website 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to think of it as a reset to early 2000s internet, which was basically the golden age.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope you’re right. Everything was a lot more wild. You’d discover a blog through some link and feel like an adventurer explorer a blank part of the map. It was much more fun.

[–] Kittenstix 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] birdy 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss Stumbleupon. I wish someone would attempt to create a spiritual successor to it. I found so much good stuff with it back in the day.

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[–] SemioticStandard 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still maintain a regular blog. Have for a long time!

(https://semioticstandard.com for the curious)

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[–] Piers 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems like people made the internet something valuable, a bunch of commercial businesses turned up to take the reins so they could harvest hat value for wealth for investors, it's reached a point where that juice is no longer worth the squeeze for them and we'll go back to a phase where the progress and generation of value will revert back to regular people again for a while. Likely that balance will then tip back towards profitability again and the cycle will start anew.

@Piers @z500 I remember in the early days of commercialization of the interwebs, the capitalists just could *not* wrap their heads around the idea of *sharing*. Legalities aside, putting music or art or whatever that you had spent money and time on, and then just... putting it out there for anyone was so foreign to them.

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[–] sznio 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tech bubble is over.

Let's hope the old web returns.

[–] fades 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cube6392 16 points 1 year ago

To be fair, this really does feel like the dot com bubble all over again

[–] OneRedFox 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know, come to think of it, the internet has been oddly stable for the past decade. Prior to modern social media, sites used to come and go all the time. I had to switch forums twice because the ones I was using shut down. Same for my image hosting sites and flash game sites. We were honestly due for a major shake up.

[–] Crotaro 5 points 1 year ago

Very true. The only sites I've seen disappear and pop up semi-regularly in the last years were of the Youtube-to-MP3 type.

[–] noodlejetski 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

remember that one year a few years ago when all the celebrities died? was it 2016? now we're getting the internet version.

[–] jcarax 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man, let's do politicians next!

[–] can 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jcarax 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do believe there's room for both.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going to have to be a much bigger submarine though.

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[–] axibzllmbo 125 points 1 year ago

The link rot from this is going to be monstrous, RIP

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Summer of enshittification continues apace.

[–] prole 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No need to coin cute new terms like, "enshittification." It is just good old rent seeking. Nothing new. Just capitalism working as intended.

[–] Kittenstix 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think there is value in coining a term for a specific process like "enshittification" as rent seeking doesn't describe the entire process. From how they get users, to how they get vendors/advertisers their forsaking the users and finally the vendors then all that's left is a husk that survives because it's a monopoly. While I understand the term is used to describe the second half imo the first half is integral because those are the steps that set up the monopoly, starving the market of competition.

Oh wait, hmm, no rent seeking adds nothing of value to the market where someone like amazon added value at one point but that took resources from aws to make it not operate at a loss, unless you see that as rent seeking

[–] prole 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess my point was just that it seems counterproductive to focus on one hyper-specific market (tech), when this is a massive problem everywhere in one way or another.

Many people seem like they're able to recognize this in the specific market they're familiar with due to their work, or whatever, without being able to connect it to the bigger picture that this is everywhere, and not just a localized phenomenon. They don't take the next logical step that, "maybe there's something fundamentally wrong with capitalism," because it seems like it's just the failure of one market.

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[–] SemioticStandard 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We're not coining a new cute term, it's been described in greater detail before, that applies specifically to tech: https://doctorow.medium.com/tiktoks-enshittification-bb3f5df91979

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[–] sagacity 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The money ran out, now we have to face cold hard decisions regarding what parts of the internet we are wiling to pay for.

[–] prole 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] chloyster 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah, that sucks. More ruined links across the internet

[–] crow 5 points 1 year ago

Oh gee I never even thought of that.

[–] azureeight 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am going to not be able to find obscure gifs i remember from the 2000's 😩

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[–] Pepper 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the reason why gfycat integrated into basically everything was because they launched themselves at the tech giants and gave everything for basically nothing.

I thought it was pretty suss that they suddenly showed up on every platform.

[–] EvilColeslaw 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were purchased by Snapchat last year. So this is probably Snapchat seeing it as only a cost center with no return. Which tbh, it probably is.

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[–] bug@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TIL that Snapchat bought it, any idea why they're now killing it? The usual reason would be that it contained/owned something they wanted (tech, IP, data, etc) and they didn't actually care about the service, reckon that's the case here?

[–] withersailor@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saving money is my guess. Running it is costing more than it makes. Company shuts it down.

[–] MariaTacobellina 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stolen from another discussion thread: Interest rates are up and quantitative evening is over. For nearly 15 years money was basically free for tech companies. Banks don't pay anything, bonds don't pay anything, the stock market is overheated and investors are still looking for return. So if your tech company was already public you could borrow in the form of bank loans or bonds for dirt cheap and if it was still privately held you can get money from individual and corporate investors.

Now that the free money era is over a lot of companies have had to finally think about making a profit so that they can keep the lights on. This is why there have been tens of thousands laid off in the tech sector in the last year or so.

As far as Reddit goes I have no idea what they've been thinking. It seems like they've been spending money developing features nobody wants or needs: locally hosted images and video which have to cost a fortune, live chat, and NFTs, to name a few. They've got the ~20th most popular website in the world with millions of daily active users and they can't figure out how to make it profitable?

The API the third party applications used doesn't serve ads. All they had to do for a bump in revenue is to insert ads and require third party applications to display them or risk losing their API access. Users would grumble but it's a pretty reasonable ask. The fact that they didn't do this demonstrates to me that they don't think the money is in serving ads, they think it's in data mining and they can only get the data they want from the official app.

[–] shanghaibebop 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I never understood was why not tie API to Reddit premium. Such a simple thing and it would’ve converted a lot of users without all this fuss.

[–] can 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it was about control. They want you on their app where they decide what you see and track how long you see it.

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[–] SemioticStandard 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that the free money era is over a lot of companies have had to finally think about making a profit so that they can keep the lights on. This is why there have been tens of thousands laid off in the tech sector in the last year or so.

Ehh I'm not so sure about this part of it, though. Companies have been making record profits.

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[–] HumbleHobo 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where is DataHoarders representation here on Lemmy?? Anyone know?

[–] AccountForStuff 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

!datahoarder@lemmy.ml I believe

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's crazy! I wonder what the reason for the shutdown is. Given that Gfycat was used heavily on Reddit, I have to wonder if the recent Reddit changes are at all related.

[–] prole 8 points 1 year ago

Money. The reason is always money.

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