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[–] victron@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel it in my gut that some day Pokemon is going to have his "BotW"-like game that will make it revolutionary and relevant again, but until then we're gonna get a lot of stinkers.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

And you'll have a certain group of diehard fans who believe it "isn't a real pokémon game" because of the changes lol.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They don't even have to do anything new, they just have to look at Cassette Beasts to see how to pull off an open world Pokemon-like game.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Now I know what my next steam game is going to be, thanks for that

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Black2/White2 used to be so missunderstood. People would absolutely kill each other for that right now

[–] lunarshot 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After the TOTK release, all the amazing mechanics, graphics, and creativity? While I think maybe TOTK is setting new bars, it really shows how much they’ve just churned out the Pokémon games without any thought.

[–] worfamerryman 9 points 1 year ago

I think I read on some Wikipedia page that Pokémon makes a majority of their money off merchandise. I think they can wait 7 years for a new game because someone born last year, may not get a Pokémon game until their 9 and they would miss out on 7 years of merchandising and potentially not capture the audience at all.

I know 9 is pretty young already so let’s say it’s a 7 year old and now they are 14 or whatever.

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Oh they had thoughts alright… thoughts of money!

[–] king_dead 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legends Arceus shows they can release a quality product, they just choose not to.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even legends Arceus could've used more time in the oven, even though it got a lot of things right.

[–] probably 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The biggest thing Arceus needed was voice acting. It is ridiculous that the biggest franchise in the world doesn't have voice acting in a game that has such animated discussions.

[–] kodoku 5 points 1 year ago

imo that's far for the game's biggest fault. it's an eyesore, the plot wasn't that good, and while they nailed a lot of things regarding gameplay, other things felt undercooked.

and frankly, there's a bunch of big franchises (mario and zelda come to mind) where voice acting, while present, is nearly non-existant, so i never got the complaints about the lack of voice acting in pokemon.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Gonna heavily disagree there. Some franchises feel really ruined by their attempt to remove the player-videogame interface barrier. MonHun with its grunts for language back in 4th gen felt great and was even fun (reminded me of The Sims in a way) but when they added voice acting, the result honestly was a lot of cringe partly because of trying to also push face expressions into it (The Handler) or just because of adding corny, stupid attempts at voice acting (like most in-hunt shouts in Rise).

Honestly, adding voice acting for Pokémon feels even dangerous: most dialogue in the Pokémon games is already heavily corny, useless or flat-out redundant, but you'd also have to add Pokémon sounds and cries that somehow feel like they "match" as in coming from the same "universe" and have some variation across individual specimens. Because "klefki.midi" just doesn't cut it anylonger.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Well Im not buying any pokemon games until they take more than a year to develop, sounds like Im not gonna be buying any new ones anytime soon if keeping the short development times is where they're starting from for their development strategy.

[–] brain_pan@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

perhaps it's not possible; the crunch strategy isn't working (and is grinding up and spitting out devs)

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's perfectly possible: they just need to reduce the frequency of that "regular" to eg.: regularly once every three years.

[–] soyagi@yiffit.net 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Palworld is set to officially release at the start of next year. It's clearly very Pokémon inspired, but looks much more impressive than any existing Pokémon game. I wonder if Palworld will help shake the Pokémon Company into upping their game.

[–] Strafer@artemis.camp 15 points 1 year ago

For most people the Pokémon IP is a much bigger draw than a potentially better game though. Game Freak are in a position where due to the Pokémon IP they can release a game riddled with issues and still sell well.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

creatures with machineguns

If I wanted that I'd just play Digimon. Not that the idea is bad, it just... feels to me more like an attempt at a replacement for Digimon than for Pokémon. Equipping everyone with machineguns and joining in into the slaughter feels like it absurdily misses the point of Pokémon for me.

(That said, I'm not con adapting some of the Palcreatures minus machineguns as fakémon if I find out I do like them)

Kindred Fates looks more interesting.

[–] vldnl@feddit.dk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also Coromon, which even has a similar style.

[–] Mandy 10 points 1 year ago

they lied on multiple occasions, so why even believes literally anything that comes out of their rotten mouths

[–] worfamerryman 4 points 1 year ago

They should just have a series that goes out regularly for casual fans and some spin-off for their older audience. Like Pokémon generation me red.

They could buff the difficulty and make the game more complex. They could even have more mature themes(not adult) just like personal growth and the pain of loss kinda stuff.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hoping for the minetest version of that, it'd be impressive.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

could pokemon take down a foss project?

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Under capitalism, a petty company with money can do anything.

On the question of "should it be able"? No. Even if reusing the """assets""" such as the graphics of the mons, they are postprocessed and converted for usage in a project like pixelmon to adjust for the visual style ("cubemon" style), which any pregraduate lawyer can identify as a Transformative Work.