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[–] nzodd 129 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Christ what a fucking moron. Seems to be a running theme with fascists.

[–] sic_1@feddit.de 45 points 1 year ago

I think that's a requirement

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This raises the question, why was a company allowed to trademark a letter?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago

You can't trademark a letter. Trademarks are extremely narrow and are only meant to apply in circumstances where one organization's symbol could be confused for another. In general I am very anti-intellectual-property, but trademarks are okay in my book. They are basically for consumer protection.

[–] Silviecat44@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

It is context sensitive

[–] AndrewMettier@mastodon.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@pruwybn @storksforlegs In the future, everytime you use the letter X, even to text, you will be charged a fee of x amount of cents based on your income.

[–] Boeman@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Will you be charged a fee for using the letter as a variable in that statement?

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[–] Raymonf@lemmy.uhhoh.com 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

we wouldn't be at all terribly surprised to know that the billionaire is aware of Microsoft's patent and more than willing to take the title to court.

Patent? lol

[–] bermuda 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

the amount of times I've read an internet article about this topic only to be met with a shockingly trivial mistake present front and center is staggering. the differences between patent, trademark, wordmark, etc. are all easily googleable and yet pretty much every article I've read on this has been using them interchangeably.

incoming rhetorical question: are these editors orangutans? (before anybody answers, i know editors & authors want to be the first one out the door so they get the most clicks and all that, but it's really not hard to make sure you're at least using the correct word. It seriously took me 20 seconds to find an answer on the difference between patent and trademark)

[–] tonamel@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Of course they made the trivial mistake, because they also made a much, much bigger one. The X trademark as it pertains to social media is owned by Meta, who bought it from Microsoft when they acquired Mixer (which later became Facebook Gaming), including Mixer's X logo.

[–] obosob@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think a lot of the issue is the widespread use of the term Intellectual Property which, arguably deliberately, conflates a few completely distinct legal concepts under one umbrella.

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[–] Latecoere@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

The amount of people in general that don't understand even the most basic shit about trademarks or how they differ from copyright and often mix up the two is staggering really.

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[–] gleep23 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I can understand a company like Google (Alphabet) and Facebook (Meta) re-branding their wider business infrastructure. Twitter is just Twitter. X is just nostalgia, and Musk is being totally irresponsible with these announcments. He is a petulant little child, looking for attention and the likes. Damn childish - his entire Twitter venture.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whats microsoft doing with X?

Aside from ActiveX, DirectX and Xbox...

[–] bermuda 42 points 1 year ago

from trademark (note registered in 2003)

for: providing on-line chat rooms for transmission of messages among computer users concerning video and computer games; providing on-line electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among computer users concerning video and computer games, in class 38

for: entertainment services, namely, providing interactive multiplayer game services for games played over computer networks and global communications networks; providing computer games and video games downloadable over computer global communications networks; providing information on the video game and computer game industries via the internet; and providing information on computer games, video games, video game consoles and accessories therefor via the internet, in class 41

in short: basically what they did in the ensuing years with Xbox and Games for Windows - Live

[–] bear_delune 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Xbox Series X, Surface Pro X,

[–] kayjay@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

iPhone X.. It’s not like X, the latin letter, is owned and used by Microsoft only.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.one 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While he's at it, he'll probably start patent trolling Linux community for X window system.

[–] twei@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe this will finally kill Xorg

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wayland: Can I come out now?

[–] SomethingBurger 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Coming out is not a valid use case, and must be implemented by each individual compositor with incompatible protocol extensions.

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[–] prole 8 points 1 year ago

Aw man, I was trying to angrily shout racist hate speech into the void, but instead I ended up uninstalling Windows completely...

This confusion is exactly why Elon needs to protect his new trademark!

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 36 points 1 year ago

This just gets better and better

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Cisco owned the "iPhone" trademark and was actively using it to sell products. Weirder things have happened.

Apple simply started using it and told Cisco, "Make me stop".

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

To which Cisco replied "okay" and forced Apple to agree to an unknown but likely ludicrous licensing fee.

Twitter got Apple money right now? Because even Elons billions aint shit compared to Microsofts literal trillions.

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Twitter got Apple money right now?

Twitter's got so little money that they can't even pay all their bills, lol.

Honestly I think they rolled out the new branding without finishing it because they can't afford proper designers or project managers. The site still says "Twitter" all over the place and they can't even trademark the new logo.

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[–] jcarax 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually iOS, not iPhone. I think if it were iPhone itself, an actually marketed product from either Apple or Cisco, it would have ended a bit differently. But in both cases, it was just iOS, the operating system of the marketed products.

In both cases, iOS was a selling point of the product, but not the product itself.

[–] chipt4 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jcarax 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, I never heard of that one, I knew they licensed iOS.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/08/cisco_licenses_ios_name_to_apple_screenshot_shows_iwork_on_iphone

I'm surprised Cisco let iPhone go so easily, considering the immediate popularity of the brand when Apple released theirs.

[–] cobra89 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apple and Cisco settled their dispute on February 20, 2007. Both companies will be allowed to use the "iPhone" name in exchange for "exploring interoperability" between Apple's products and Cisco's services and other unspecified terms

Seriously, they let it go for nothing. When did Apple and Cisco ever integrate products?...

Edit: Also it says they're both allowed to use it. I would love to see Cisco come out with an "iPhone" in 2023 lol

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[–] zxo@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe he shoulda just stuck with the bird, or thought of a name that is even a tad more creative. I'm pretty sure a hamster or a piece of paper could do a better job at managing Twitter than Muskrat is right now.

[–] StarServal@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

He killed the canary. There’s no better iconography for how toxic Twitter has become.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

He does it about as well as I'd expect a muskrat to do it, to be fair

[–] Irisos@lemmy.umainfo.live 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's fine. He just exchanged trademarks with Egosoft https://twitter.com/EGOSOFT/status/1683477783584858115 so he is in the clear 👍

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[–] TheDarkFlame@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At what point does the game Xcom become involved... That shit has been around forever, and is definitely very close to X.com

[–] kayjay@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s… not how that works.
The brand isn’t "x.com" either, it’s "X". They don’t even use x.com as a domain.
Even if it was x.com, a video game being called Xcom wouldn’t be close enough to the website x.com to be able to be confused. It would be different if they both were websites.

[–] homesnatch@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They do plan to switch to the x.com domain and already own it.

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[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Knock knock, open up the door, it's a subpoena
Trademark infringement means a judge wants to see ya!

X gonna serve it to ya

[–] radialmonster@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other articles saying Meta owns x hot potato

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Clearly the original was Mythos Games when they produced XCOM. Musk just added a fucking dot and thought that made it "original".

[–] VulcanSphere@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in #Japan, with #VisualKei #Vkei (#JapaneseRock) band #XJapan.

The frontman #Yoshiki even called out #Twitter Japan of their trademark right (which is legitimate).

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