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[–] BevelGear 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A discussion to end the conflict, where the victim isn't present, will not favor the victim nor deserve any praise

[–] megopie 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nor will it even work, because, like, it takes two to tango. Ukraine can just… decline to sign what ever agreement Putin and trump cook up.

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago

Unless that dinner is explosive.

[–] millie 26 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure the US saying "okay, Putin gets whatever he wants" is going to be as effective as Trump would like to think.

[–] along_the_road 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US is offering nothing to Ukraine, no NATO, no more weapons, no more aid, no security guarantees, etc.

What are they even negotiating?

[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obviously they are negotiating who gets which ukranian natural resources. USA and Russia, like always, divide the cake between themselves, while Ukraine and the rest of the world realise these bastards will always be the same imperialist assholes.

Trump's administration don't even lie about this. They have explicitly said that's the whole issue. I hate their policies, but you gotta acknowledge the honesty.

[–] LukeZaz 4 points 1 month ago

I hate their policies, but you gotta acknowledge the honesty.

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If the EU and The Ukraine were involved in these negotiations I’m pretty sure we’d be much more likely to come to a satisfactory conclusion.

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 2 points 1 month ago

I swear I hear rocks moving...

[–] melp 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Remarkable" seems to be generously applied here

[–] SteposVenzny 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here we are all remarking on it.

[–] melp 3 points 1 month ago

That's not what remarkable means, though. But, yes. English is ridiculous.

[–] megopie 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s short sighted and obviously doomed to fail. Europe and Ukraine are not on board, so all this will really do is give the trump administration a way to kill aid and support for Ukraine to make Putin happy.