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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Having the Baby.

The budding love story is a go to for writers. Everyone loves it, and makes you feel emotions when they finally get together. Problem is, it has a natural path.

2 to 3 seasons to get together. 1 season of new bliss, 1 season of ups and downs, ending with a marriage proposal. 1 season of engagement ending in wedding. 1 season of new marriage stuff. Now what?

Married couples are boring. So what do we do now? Now it's time for the baby.

And babies are horrible on TV. People watch TV to escape reality, not hear a screaming child. So the dream couple has a baby and it's so tiring and so much work, but suddenly the show starts focusing on other characters, and then suddenly you know it's over.

The office was famous for this one. Everyone loves Jim and Pam, until the wedding, then who cares. They tried to force those feelings again with Andy and Erin, but you just can't.

Parks and rec luckily took a different route with Andy and April, but you can tell they were teetering on the edge, and in the final season everyone had kids anyway.

HIMYM had a worse approach because it wasn't that Ted was on the path, but rather Lily and Marshall already were and so kids came in earlier, and again change the entire show.

The list goes on, it is an official trope now

I think Modern Family was the exception to this, at least with Mitchell & Cam. Gloria getting pregnant just had vibes of Married with Children when Peggy got pregnant and it felt like the start of the end.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Parenting portrayal in HIMYM was natalist propaganda, Lily and Marshall's kid was maintenance free and they continued to live their old life.

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When a character that has fully and officially died or been wrote off, returns in some deus ex machina style lazy way

Often times for me if is when they clearly wrote a show to have 2 main characters to be together, and they make them get close as if they are going to finally get there in episode 6 (where I should stop watching) and then it doesn't happen until season 3 (when I'm fucking upset I bothered watching this shit because now I wanted them to never get together)

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

Celebrity appearances.

Not to say the show goes downhill because of it. But I feel as if it's often used as a crutch to attract more viewers.

[–] igorette@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] jonc211@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Though there it really was a core component, so obviously itllt work

[–] baggins 1 points 1 month ago

And The Man In The High Castle. Or is that alternative universe?

[–] GammaGames 3 points 1 month ago

It’s become a joke between my partner and I at this point, so many shows fall into this pit

Rick and Morty Disagrees

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Starting to answer backstory questions no one really wanted to know. For example, I knew Seinfeld was running out the clock as soon as they gave Kramer a first name.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When did that happen? I must have blocked it out of my memory.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know which season it happened but you might recall his name is Cosmo Kramer.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah. That's gotta be pretty early on though. It wasn't a big deal.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Season six.

COSMO????

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

When one or more of the original main character actors leave the show. They'll either introduce new characters to replace the originals or refocus the show on some of the existing, less-important ones. Sometimes a show can make it work, and occasionally you end up with something better, but it usually indicates the show has one, maybe two seasons of life left.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

when oliver shows up

seriously, one that really bothers me was Psych. my all-time fav buddy comedy. when the primary premise of the show is no longer on display, its time to wrap it up.

as the series wore on they relied less and less on 'shawns gift', and the magic was gone. they moved away from made the show great.. a guy succeeding with a unique talent despite himself. a comedic-ally driven contemporary sherlock holmes trope.

the subsequent movies doubled down on not using his talents and so they are even worse than the final years of the show.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Ah yes. The Oliver/Poochie character.

ETA: Or Scrappie Fucking Doo

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A character explaining that justice is following your gut rather than the law while being some sort part of justice system.
I stopped many show because of that.
That is also why I loved what B99 did so much.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stupid law stopping us from searching his house! Ugh a warrant? So stupid and useless, right people watching?; we should get rid of those stupid amendments!

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago

"my friend the cop is an honest guy! He only murdered a guy because he was pushed after all these drugs and corruption troubles into being blackmail. The whole squat should cover for him. That's the right thing to do." And so many horrible lines...

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When they do the black and white episode that is from like the 1940s

[–] DerPlouk@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I wish they did like in the 1940s... Instead, current directors cannot shoot proper B&W and just rely on hackneyed gimmicks (I mean stuff like using the overly contrasted shade of a Venetian blind, smoke going through a ray of light, ...). There is always too much white and too much black, which kills the range in between, unlike old movies and TV shows which are made of shades of grey where everything can be seen clearly; settings are not adapted either; anyway they have no idea of what they are shooting, they simply shoot in colour and then remove colours in post-processing like they do usually when they apply their stupid colour filter (blue-brown = Scandinavian police drama, lovat green = Germany, yellow = Mediterranean, blue = techno-thriller, etc.). Any low-rated chain-produced family entertainment TV series from the 50s and 60s, filmed by a random director from back then, exhibits a better B&W picture than those modern arty attempts.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

6 seasons and a movie though

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

When the actors have so much Botox they can’t move their faces. Oh sorry, that happens the second the movie/show starts.

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago
[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't usually watch bad TV but one thing I do notice is that if a show doesn't have a showrunner, or has almost as many writers as it does episodes, it won't end well.

[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish I was able to avoid watching bad TV. I almost exclusivally watch older show to avoid bad surprises.
Would you mind sharing your definition, so I can identify bad TV better ?

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

To me, "bad TV" is a show with any combination of bad acting or bad writing, TBH. I also tend to avoid shows that haven't completed their runs, because a lot of shows get cancelled before they get a chance to conclude properly. I honestly just check the IMDb rating and the trailer and if the rating is above 7.0 or so then it's probably not bad. Unless the fanbase is huge, sometimes the score is inflated.

Sometimes I will find shows by looking at which programs got Emmys over the past few years but that's not the most efficient way to find new shows IMHO

When there’s a big shakeup in writers.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Flashbacks.

[–] murmelade@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

The Expanse begs to differ. (Disclaimer, I own Dinocroc vs Supergator on DVD)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

The SciFi (before the rebranding) Dune miniseries are really good. They're my favorite versions of Dune so far, and they did Dune Messiah and Children of Dune too. Those two are both part of the "Children of Dune" miniseries.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

When a show focuses on women in season 1 and in season 2 they add a white male character as a love interest. Examples: Supergirl, Once Upon A Time, Yellowjackets.

Similarly, when a shows focuses on women in season 1 and they add a whole bunch of male characters in season 2 that they give a ton of screen-time to. Extreme example: The Wilds