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Web dev: What browser is visiting the page?

User agent string:

A screenshot of a browser. The URL bar reads firefox://settings, a button on the URL bar is labelled Netscape, a popup from the button reads: "You're viewing a secure Opera page", and the web page title reads "Chrome settings".

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[–] apprehentice@lemmy.enchanted.social 84 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Functionally useless. With the web standardized, we shouldn't need user agents anyway. It would be more beneficial to ask "do you support X, Y, and Z?"

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's called feature detection and it goes a long way back, even before Modernizr popularized it.

[–] GammaGames 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Popularized? That gets less than 100k downloads a week

[–] dan@upvote.au 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Most developers just write their own feature checks (a lot of detections are just a single line of code) or use a library that polyfills the feature if it's missing.

The person you're replying to is right, though. Modernizr popularized this approach. It predates npm, and npm still isn't their main distribution method, so the npm download numbers don't mean anything.

[–] GammaGames 3 points 5 months ago

Neat, thanks for clarifying! I’ve never heard of it

It used to be huge.

[–] dan@upvote.au 15 points 5 months ago

That's exactly what you're supposed to do with the modern web, via feature detection and client hints.

The user agent in Chrome (and I think Firefox too) is "frozen" now, meaning it no longer receives any major updates.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I know Safari 15.3 doesn’t support feature Y, but I also know the current version does. Now I want to know if I can just use the feature or if I need to program around Safari 15.3. It would be nice to just look at the server logs from last month and see if someone still uses it.

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[–] Tin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 5 months ago

"yer a jedi, harry" - Gandalf

[–] dan@upvote.au 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

User agents are essentially deprecated and are going to become less and less useful over time. The replacement is either client hints or feature detection, depending on what you're using it for.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it... (scrolls wheel of browsers) Lynx?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm still amazed at how usable Lynx is, given the insane premise of the application.

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 11 points 5 months ago

A URL is not an agent string, just saying.

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 10 points 5 months ago

A new browser touches the beacon

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 months ago

I want a WordPress plugin that refuses to load my site for anyyhing newer than Netscape 3 and pops up a modal "you need to upgrade your browser" pane.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 1 points 5 months ago

There are some use cases other than web page compatibility. One for me is in dealing with firewall and proxy policy, if the agent is a browser and comes in on specified explicit ports then force authentication, things of that nature.