People hate the term AI and so Mozilla were always going to struggle with providing modern functionality, as let's face it, the Internet is embracing AI whether we like it or not

There's AI in many forms in Firefox such as how it predicts the page you want to revisit from the address bar and translates content locally on device. If these AI capabilities were moved to extensions, it would probably significantly reduce the benefit users get from Firefox and likely prevent other useful features such as privacy preserving AI alternatives.

This is poignant. AI as we know it is basically what we were calling machine learning a couple years ago. The same people that are very vocally complaining about the advent of a smarter browser, are the same people that bemoan Mozilla for depending on Google for financing. Somehow they want a browser that only the most devout privacy evangelists would use and they want a browser that is self-sustained through diverse deals, none of which they're able to see or feel.

I feel like there's a lot of disingenuous Firefox supporters who want a utopia browser and refuse to allow Mozilla to do anything to evolve the browser. These same people talk up all the Firefox forks and that change a few defaults and yet bemoan everything Mozilla does that makes those forks possible. It's boring.

• I want a browser with on device translations.
• I want a browser with smart page suggestions.
• I want a browser that's able to summarise articles.
• I want a browser that can fact-check pages.

The biggest issue with Mozilla if they didn't decide to put some form of AI stuff in Firefox is that their competitors could use it as ammunition to fuel an as campaign painting Firefox as not only out of touch and outdated, but less secure because they don't have AI security.

I can guarantee if average person, like my middle aged parents who aren't very tech savvy, saw an ad pointing that out (no matter how untrue it is) I'd be told about it the next chance they got, proving they believe it.

They have to keep up with what their competitors are doing or get left behind and die a slow and painful death. AI is just the latest trend to be added, and Mozilla is just trying to keep up to ensure whatever remainder of normies still use Firefox don't decide to abandon ship.

I personally don't like it, but what other options are there?

Just want to clarify there's no LLM integrated IN the browser that many seem to be assuming. This experimental feature loads an external chat window in the sidebar to another service.

the uses of ai that firefox has implemented are optional and great for accessibility. why would you oppose that?

I don't get why y'all are so mad about this. As long as the features are optional and I can easily turn them off in the settings, they don't bother me at all.

When companies can answer this one simple question, “What specific problem does implementing AI (LLM, etc) solve?”, only then might I consider it.

I have heard of only one, maybe two, instances of AI solving a real problem and it has to do with helping a person to speak again, or to walk again, etc.

I have yet to be convinced of any specific problem AI is solving in a browser or an operating system.

And just because “the internet” is latching onto this latest thing, doesn’t mean it’s right. It just means people see a shiny and want more of it.

Seems like a pointless waste of time for a first-party effort, when they could be… Idk, implementing the audio manipulation APIs that Discord relies on, or something.

But I don’t necessarily see direct harm from it either. Just useless.

I would but I get a 401 when I attempt to sign in.

I know it's a functional Mozilla account because I use it every day for sync but here we are.