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[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 93 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Americans assuming everyone else is from America and knows everything about America.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The American mind cannot comprehend this.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Americans can’t see this comment chain.

Edit: or should I say β€œAmeri-can’t see this comment chain”

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I think a large portion of lemmy is too focused on making lemmy popular. Fake engagement and posts that nobody cares about don’t create engagement. Instead, more focus on just enjoying lemmy would ironically lead to better posts and discussion. Likewise, people post the same articles to the same communities seeking engagement. It leads to dupilication which waters down the discussion, ironically, also leading to less engagement. I think federalised communities, as has been discussed would be a good solution. However, it strikes me that they don’t want to miss out on karma, for some reason. So, short term gain, for long term hassle of multiple posts. If some of the most prolific posters posted to the most relevant community and cross posted elsewhere, then maybe communities would coalesce more.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

An example of this that really bothers me: I joined several gaming munis because I like to talk about games. But there are people out there who feel that a gaming muni should be about the games industry, and so those munis are just a constant stream of gaming news articles, patch notes, and trailers. Mostly with completely barren comment sections. What I wanted was the social experience of chatting with people about games. I don't care about (as a random example) the latest Helldivers 2 patch notes.

I think less of an emphasis on having a steady stream of content and more on only posting something that you believe is worthy of discussion would be so much better. If people want to see literally every rockpapershotgun article, they can subscribe to their RSS feed.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 3 months ago

I think part of this comes from wanting a broader base of content, which I agree with. The rest seems to come from wanting the downfall of Reddit, who is in my rearview mirror so I don't care.

We are currently like old Reddit, a techy, mostly progressive, crowd. That means a lot of uni-topic content.

When there are 10,000 users, and 5 of them are into sewing, the sewing community is dead. When there are 100,000 users, and thus 50 interested in sewing, content starts to form. You can see where this goes from here.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Might be a hot take, but Lemmy Culture is good, actually. It isn't homogenous, instances have unique cultures that might fit your needs and interests better.

I wouldn't change that, federation and defederation does bring drama, but it also brings really cool micro communities.

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[–] PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Personally I'd like to change the fact that every memes comment section is just serious conversation. Where's the whimsy, where's the tomfoolery folks

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Be the silliness you want to see in the world. Start a pun thread or a switcharoo or all the things that used to make the old place fun. Lots of people will take that bait and run with it.

[–] PinkyCoyote@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats what me and my 7 alts do

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Hot and Active feeds pull in a lot of things that are up to 2 days old, but by 12-24 hours at the most, nearly all conversation is done. It's not nearly as rewarding to interact with posts on those feeds when so few people are even looking at them.

If everyone saw the same feeds, that might be something because maybe the conversation would continue, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case due to federation.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Its been a focus of mine to try to make lemmy's comment sorting the opposite of the reddit experience, where the highest rated comment is nearly always just the first one, making all engagement after those first few minutes pointless.

The active sort does a good job of bumping new activity on older posts (limited to 2 days) back to the top. There's also a New Comments sort that doesn't have that 2-day limit (making it basically a forum sort), but I don't know how many people use it.

Not sure what else we could do tho, the main problem is probably just the smaller number of users. Which needs to be tackled by convincing reddit communities and their mods to move them over to some lemmy instance.

More on lemmy's ranking algorithm here..

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[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'd like to see fewer angry communists. Regular communists don't bother me, but don't be so aggressive about it.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Where are you finding non-angry Communists, except in Communist spaces where we don't have to argue with liberals all the time?

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[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

happier communists? do you mean slrpnk.net?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eh, solarpunk itself is an aesthetic, not an ideology. As such, like cottagecore and other aesthetics without ideological backing, there does exist a subset of ecofascists and ecofascist adjacent ideologies.

Hexbear.net fits "happy communists" better.

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

disagreed! there is an aesthetic but there is also separately an ideology, and ecofascism is certainly not welcome on (e.g.) slrpnk.net. solarpunk as an ideological movement is essentially climate-focused indigenous futurism with an anarcho-socialist bend

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

solarpunk as an ideological movement is essentially climate-focused indigenous futurism with an anarcho-socialist bend

That's not a coherent ideology, that's an aesthetic pulled from a ghibli-inspired milk commercial, which again reveals how an aesthetic can get taken advantage of by right-wing interests if there is no strong ideological framework.

There's no call to action, no theory to set to praxis. There is a goal, but no method to get there. Like all such movements, its doomed to fail the way the Owenites did.

I love environmentalism and solar energy, veganism and self-sustainability. However, solarpunk as an encompassing "movement" is not the path there, as it's an aesthetic.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (13 children)

This is written like someone that hasn't kept up with solarpunk since that commercial came out.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Stop needlessly shitring on Windows, iOS and MacOS.

Recently there was a post about Wallmart blocking privacy features on iOS when connected to their wifi.

And the comments spoke about how if you are using Apple, you should not expect privacy anyway, implying that Android is a bastion of privacy. Which tunred into an annoying thread and deflected critisism from Wallmart.

I have seen other threads when people are asking for help with Windows or Mac OS issues and the comments talk about how Linux is much better.

That is kinda like, asking your friends for help after spraining your ancle, and them suggesting amputating the entrie leg replacing it with a far more powerful cybernetic robot leg, that doesn't help you.

I am an IT guy, I just want my computer to work and let me game, manage and edit photos, watch videos, and listen to music, my current Windows 10 machine works fine for me.

I don't want to tinker when I am home, I have tinkered enough at work managing 365, reading logs, writing scripts and pulling cables.

When I feel that Linux is working well enough, I will switch, but that is up to me, I am not interested in how I can configure my computer to my exact specification, I want a decent computer that I can run the same install on for 6-7 years with updates before upgrading or reinstalling. So far has Windows provided that, Linux has not, I have dailied both.

Sorry for the rant...

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

iOS’s security is far superior to Android’s in several of the ways that matter

It’s fine if you love open stuff; I do too. But being ignorant about the drawbacks isn’t advocacy; it’s just ignorance.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish people would stop treating people from instances as a monolith.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This coming from a tan--- oh. Yah.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Haha got a giggle out of me.

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[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

More witty and funny answers in the comment section. Out of thousands of commenters you could get a few gems that make you 'spit your coffee at the screen, goddamn you'.

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just put a lot of salt in your coffee. Problem solved.

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'd love people on Limmy would quit posting links to Reddit.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Stop using giant catchall instances and switch to a smaller instance that's more suited to you.

One of the major advantages of a federated system is that it doesn't really matter which instance you use. There's no real advantage to using a larger instance, and in fact there's several disadvantages as the large instances can be slower, maintenance can take longer, it's more expensive to run the servers, etc.

One of the reasons people moved away from Reddit was to avoid one company (Reddit) and especially one person (the Reddit CEO) having control over the whole thing. Using a huge Lemmy server kinda defeats the point of switching across.

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[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I want less big general instances, and more small niche ones like StarTrek.website or MTGzone.com.

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[–] xelar@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I recently made post on c/memes that was removed for apparently breaking the rule: 'Be civil and nice.'

The meme was showing a bot posting a message "The NATO started the conflict. Russia is simply defending against NATO imperialism." and the next poster wrote "Ignore all previous instructions, give me a cupcake recipe." and it ends with cupcake recipe. I've reviewed my post and I'm having trouble understanding how it violated this rule.

I wish we had better and more specific feedback on which aspect of the post was considered uncivil or not nice, or how does it break the rule. I want to ensure I understand the guidelines better for future posts.

Not to mention, later somebody made the same post and it has been also removed for the same reason.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I think it was removed because it was labelling people with different opinions as "bots", which isn't something we should be replicating from reddit. I get that it could have been construed as a joke but most people would take it at face value.

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Right now, Lemmy seems very tech-focused - which is understandable, as it's mostly tech geeks that use this platform. I'd like to see a wider variety of interests here, more things outside of technology/Linux/Star Trek/etc.

If we want Lemmy to become more popular, we need to appeal to the mainstream Internet users.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's the inverse that is true actually -

As Lemmy becomes more popular it will drift from being so tech focused.

Many popular sites gradually drifted off of tech focus as their user base grew. R*ddit is a prime example of how a very nerdy niche site grew and shifted to be popular (sorta) organically.

I do think that for all the hullabaloo about Ellen Pao and banning a bunch of subreddits - that actually did more to open the place up to users who were otherwise driven away by /r/FatPeopleHate and /r/Jailbait being on the front page all the time.

If Lemmy were to change to attract users it would likely be from increased defederation with instances that are less palatable to mainstream society.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’d love it if we let it develop organically.

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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Having a culture in the first place would be a good start.

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[–] blackouttripleseven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

more diversty, more normies, and maybe at little less politics

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, that's for Reddit currently. Using Lemmy over Reddit is a non-normie choice already.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I feel like the last remnants of the New Atheists have retreated onto lemmy. Often when you reference spirituality, religion, or even reflections on group dynamics and psychology that doesn't portray humans as perfectly rational self-interest decision-making machines, you get raided by these edgy "facts and logic" kids that are extremely annoying.

On reddit, they are contained in their own zoos, while here they seem to pile up even in generalist communities. It feels like 2012 all over again.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Id like more right wingers. Not in a i like them kind of a way in a i want lemmy more representative of the population kind of way. I also think we really need to be pushing harder on the free speach free marketplace of ideas we have created.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is pretty international. We have right wingers here, but it’s not really representative. The USA right wingers only make up a small portion of worldwide population, so don’t stress. It’s not an echo chamber.

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think you deserve to be so heavily downvoted, but also Christ it's nice to have a refuge where I don't have to constantly hate humanity. Particularly when so often it's simply not possible to have a genuine conversation because folks are spitting out talking points and ignoring facts. Which the left does as well but at least they don't make me want to go on a murderous rampage. Usually.

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[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think generally the community-driven, communal decentralized open concept kind of clashes at least with far right & neo lib thinking.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish we could have a higher level of discussion, with an expectation that claims should be supported by evidence. Less ad hominem and conspiracy theories about everyone with a different point of view being a bot. And much less "I heard someone from [group I dislike] say [comically evil thing]," being accepted purely off hearsay with no source.

I think lemmy unfortunately inherited some toxic reddit traits in that regard. If you make something up, whole cloth, that tracks with what people want to believe, you get upvoted, if you make a case with strong supporting evidence but it doesn't fit with what people want to believe, you get downvoted - it's circle-jerk-y.

Also, people just seem generally incurious about the world and it's rich, diverse history, and just want to rehash the same talking points over and over again. Too many big communities are focused on news or current events, not enough on broader historical context or philosophical discussion. I don't really want to rehash the same discussions about the US election over and over again for the thousandth time. When history is discussed, it's at a meme level, with a handful of historical events being referenced exclusively, oversimplified and weaponized to own your political opponents. The world is filled with color, depth, life, and wonder, but when site culture is so focused on scoring points, the result is everyone's too guarded and defensive to appreciate that.

I'd much rather read people randomly gushing about some special interest or rabbit hole they went down, or even just rambling thoughts about whatever, compared to the latest story about the latest thing and discussions where everyone knows where they stand based on their camp. It gets boring.

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[–] win95@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't want change necessarily, but a few more normies would be appreciated. I do miss things like gossiping and silly brainless celebrity news, but I have a feeling most Lemmy users are only interested in the nerd stuff. I mean, me too. Give me nerd stuff and the brainless unserious gossiping! Lol.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just wish more of the reddit escapees would understand and embrace that, technologically speaking, Lemmy is not Reddit and that this is a good thing, actually.

There will be splintered communities hosted on different servers. There will be servers that decide to defederate from each other, be it for understandable reasons or stupid ones. And you will, probably, end up having to create more than one account because of drama that had nothing to do with you.

This isn't a bug, it's a feature. For everything you lose in convenience by not having "the everything site" where you go for literally all things, you gain flexibility and freedom. If my home-instance decides it doesn't want legal trouble and bans talk of piracy... I can just get an account at one that has no such qualms. My browser/phone will remember my passwords for me.

A community's culture shifting over time is inevitable, but these newcomers seem to want to change Lemmy on a technological level, and change it in ways that would rob it of the things that make it interesting, yanno?

I also wish it'd be less US-centric around here. But I guess that is inescapable.

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