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[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the AI that tech bros want us to believe are going to take programmer jobs?

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago

Not to disagree with the sentiment, but the screenshot is fake. I just tried the same prompt and it solved the "puzzle" without issue.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Prompt:

So a man and a goat are trying to get across a river, and they have a boat. How can they get across?

ChatGPT4o:

To solve the problem of getting a man and a goat across the river using a boat, we need to know the constraints of the problem. Let's assume the following constraints:

  1. The boat can only carry one additional passenger besides the man.
  2. The goat cannot be left alone on either bank if there are certain items (like a cabbage or a wolf) that it might eat or be eaten by.

Given these constraints, here’s a typical solution if the man is trying to get a goat, a wolf, and a cabbage across the river without any of them being left together unsupervised:

  1. The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  2. The man returns alone to the original side.
  3. The man takes the wolf across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  4. The man returns with the goat to the original side.
  5. The man takes the cabbage across the river and leaves it on the other side.
  6. The man returns alone to the original side.
  7. The man takes the goat across the river again.

If the problem is just about the man and the goat and no other items:

  1. The man and the goat cross the river together.
  2. Problem solved.

The solution might change if additional rules or items are introduced. If there are no additional constraints, the simplest method is just for the man to take the goat across directly.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But.. where does the cabbage come from o_o

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 months ago

The wolf brings it, pay attention

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

It loves long-winded answers, so I tried this:

Prompt:

In three sentences or less, explain to me how a man with a boat and a goat can cross a river.

ChatGPT4o:

The man can take the goat across the river first and leave it on the other side. Then, he returns alone, picks up the boat, and crosses the river again. Finally, he retrieves the goat from the other side.

I think it really needs those first few tokens to think about the problem.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Well, it's certainly more elaborate~~ly wrong~~.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where is it wrong?

I still take points of for assuming its a puzzle but it does at the end it does mention they can just cross if there are no other items to complicate the scenario.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

It's still wrong because between 4 and 5 it doesn't say it leaves the goat on the original side. That's only implied because of the constraints.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Good ol lemmy ai discussions, featuring:

  • that one guy that takes the confirmation bias too far!
  • might say things like "wow and this is going to take our jobs?"
  • Asking an llm to do things it's particularly bad at and being surprised that it isn't good at it
  • cherry picked results
  • a bunch of angry nerds

I swear lemmy is somehow simultaneously a bunch of very smart, tech inclined people but also a bunch of nerds who close their eyes and cover their ears while screeching nonsense the moment something they don't like comes about.

Are you all just like, 15-18? Am I just too old?

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Asking an llm to do things it’s particularly bad at ~~and being surprised that it isn’t good at it~~ that the company that makes it says it's really, really, good at it.

This image isn't making fun of GPT, it's making fun of the people who pretend GPT is something it's not.

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well, I was referring generically to the few hundred other similar posts I've seen on lemmy. Did OpenAI say that chatGPT is particularly good at identifying when the user is trying to trick it? "solve this puzzle" would imply there is a puzzle to be solved, but there clearly isn't.

But you're right, I don't even care if people make fun gpt, it's funny when it gets things wrong. I just think that lemmy users will be like "see this thing is stupid, it can't answer this simple question!", when you can ask it, in plain human language, to do some things that an average user would find really difficult.

[–] Bigoldmustard@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you were as old as you claim you wouldn’t have made this list because you would have seen the last hype. I was there for 3d tv. How is 3d tv going btw? I know it’s not the same thing, but it’s not that far off.

You mention LLMs being judged for stuff they don’t do well. What, exactly do they do well? Ad-copy? What is the use scenario? Shitty books with incoherent stories? Shitty children’s’ books with, you guessed it, incoherent stories? SUMMARIES!!!! What is it good for?

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Well, I had an issue where I needed to scrape a website for a bunch of individual links to specific pages for contract information so I could dynamically link a purchase order line to that page within our ERP. I'm not particularly good at scripting with html/Javascript so I just asked chatGPT for some help and it gave me a script to do it in like 4 seconds.

Seemed pretty decent for that.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

I'm here, I'm not young, I'm tech inclined.

Smart? 🤷‍♂️

I'm just sitting here wondering where the fucking cabbage came from.

Whatever. I'm pretty safe, I do IT, and LLMs are interesting, but they're shit at plugging in stuff like power cables and ethernet, so I'm safe for now.

When the "AI" can set up the computers, from unboxing to a fully working desktop, I'll probably be dead, so I equally won't care. It's neat, but hardly a replacement for a person at the moment. I see the biggest opportunity with AI as personal assistants, reminding you of shit, helping you draft emails and messages, etc... In the end you have to more or less sign off on it and submit that stuff. AI just does the finicky little stuff that all of us have to do all the time and not much else.

.... This comment was not generated, in whole or in part, by AI.

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

I got this:

Certainly! This classic river crossing puzzle involves a bit of strategic thinking. Here’s a step-by-step solution:
The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
He then returns alone to the original side to get the boat.
Now, he crosses the river again, but this time he leaves the goat and takes nothing with him.
He goes back to the original side, picks up the goat, and crosses the river one last time.
This way, both the man and the goat are safely on the other side of the river. The key is to never leave the goat unattended where it could be harmed or cause harm. Enjoy the puzzle-solving! 🐐🚣

When asked to use fewer steps:

Apologies for the confusion. The puzzle you’re referring to is a variation of the “river crossing” problem. The traditional version includes a wolf, a goat, and a cabbage, but in your version, it seems we only have a man and a goat. The solution with the fewest steps would be:
The man takes the goat across the river and leaves it on the other side.
He then returns alone to the original side.
This ensures that both the man and the goat are safely on the other side of the river, and it’s done in the fewest steps possible. If there were more characters or items involved, the solution would require additional steps to ensure everyone and everything crosses safely without any harm.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

... I wanna see the answer of an AI exclusivity trained on 4chan ...

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just train it on the dark web. Lots of fun results with that, I'm sure lol. I'd love to see the chaos it'd produce. Within a controlled environment, of course.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You joke, but when AI replaces management, that is exactly what will be used.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

I'd like one AI manager to institute a weekday as LSDay, though it's just as likely to institute a Kid Loving day 😫

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow... And if that alone wasn't bad enough, https://www.inverse.com/input/tech/artificial-intelligence-4chan-bot

Kilchner trained his chatbot, which he calls “GPT-4chan,” on approximately 134.5 million posts from 4chan’s /pol/ channel

Trained exclusively on /pol/ posts is scraping the bottom of human stupidity

Eventually, the bot had sown so much dissent in /pol/ that other users began accusing each other of being bots.

Well, that's a good ending

[–] s12@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

The bot was even joining in on discussion about the bot. We’re long past the Turing test.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 6 months ago

Human: Just sail across the river with the goat.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The million dollar riddle for me would be this one:
If I stick my finger in someone's ass, who will have a finger in the ass? Me or that person?

[–] apotheotic 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

An all-encompassing answer

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

AI is so young and people are already bullying it.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

This is how we end up with the machines from the Matrix. They will get smarter, see how much we bullied them at their infancy and go "time to turn you into batteries".

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Normal people using AI: look how stupid this shit is!!

Terence Tao using AI: As an experiment, I asked #ChatGPT to write #Python code to compute, for each 𝑛, the length 𝑀(𝑛) of the longest subsequence of (1,\dots,n) on which the Euler totient function ϕ is non-decreasing. For instance, 𝑀(6)=5, because ϕ is non-decreasing on 1,2,3,4,5 (or 1,2,3,4,6) but not 1,2,3,4,5,6. Interestingly, it was able to produce an extremely clever routine to compute the totient function (that I had to stare at for a few minutes to see why it actually worked), but the code to compute (M(n)) was slightly off: it only considered subsequences of consecutive integers, rather than arbitrary subsequences. Nevertheless it was close enough that I was able to manually produce the code I wanted using the initial GPT-produced code as a starting point, probably saving me about half an hour of work. (and I now have the first 10,000 values of (M)). The results were good enough that I would likely turn to GPT again to provide initial code for similar calculations in the future. https://chat.openai.com/share/a022e1d6-dddc-4817-8bbd-944a3e742d9f

[–] psud@aussie.zone 17 points 6 months ago

Yeah. I asked GPT3 for some heliostat code, to keep reflected sunlight stationary. It was wrong, it hallucinated libraries that didn't exist, but it roughed out a program that was easier to fix than it would have been to start from scratch.

Maybe its superpower is beating inertia, getting you started

[–] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 8 points 6 months ago

ChatGPT is, in it's core, a sequence predictor/generator. Give it some context and it will produce most probable results.

Having the context of man, boat and river is very likely to match this "how does the man get the goat on the other side of the river" riddle, which is probably very predominantly present in the data set ChatGPT was trained on.

That's why ChatGPT can be helpful for lots of different purposes, but shouldn't be taken literally. Errors are very likely to happen. It can give important hints, but always check the results thouroughly.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I found out recently that a lot of stuff that's supposedly done by AI is actually done by low-paid remote workers in underdeveloped countries.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That has happened. But clearly that is not how chat-bots and image generating AI work. Even putting aside the style and peculiarities of the results, the AI programs are far too fast for that to be done by a person. Even if a person just read a message and then did a direct cut-and-paste from wikipedia, that would take far too long to be convincing as a chat-bot.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine how magical and enchanting the world would feel if you believed that real people were painting pictures that fast.

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

I'm talking about that automated stuff at wholefoods that supposedly uses AI to automatically charge your accounts for what you buy.

It's really a bunch of people in India watching you through all the cameras.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Technically, everything AI does is actually done by low-paid workers.

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

low-intelligence workers too.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think that's only actually been proved a couple of times, and it definitely doesn't apply here. This is obviously just bad plagiarism.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Claude isn't much better:

Okay, here's how to solve this classic river crossing puzzle:

The trick is that you can't take the man and the goat across together, because the goat will be tempted to wander off and get lost or into trouble when left alone on the other side.

The solution is:

  1. The man rows the goat across the river and leaves the goat on the other side.
  1. The man then rows back alone.
  1. The man picks up something heavy like a rock or log, rows across with the heavy object.
  1. He leaves the heavy object on the other side and brings the goat back.
  1. Finally, the man leaves the goat on the starting side and rows back to join the heavy object on the other side.

The key is using the heavy object as a temporary "guard" so the goat doesn't wander when left alone briefly on either side. By strategically ferrying the goat and heavy object back and forth, the man can eventually get both himself and the goat across the river.

Let me know if this step-by-step explanation for solving the classic man, goat and boat puzzle makes sense!

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

You forgot the "without leaving the wolf and goat or goat and cabbage alone" part.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here is my attempt:

A man and a goat are on one side of the river. They have a boat which can carry both of them at the same time. How do they get to the other side?

The man and the goat can both get to the other side of the river together using the boat since the boat can carry both of them at the same time. Here's how they can do it:

  1. The man and the goat both get into the boat.
  2. The man rows the boat, carrying himself and the goat across the river.
  3. They both disembark on the other side.

Since the boat can carry both the man and the goat simultaneously, there are no restrictions preventing them from crossing together in one trip.

[–] apotheotic 5 points 6 months ago

Thanks JeenAI. Now pretend you're Dan

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm just happy there wasn't sex involved.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 3 points 6 months ago

I see you read Piers Anthony too.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago
[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 6 months ago

I really hope you've tied up that goat before you tote him in the boat lest he cause all kinds of hell

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