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Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?

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[โ€“] TiredNerdDad@lemmy.ml 78 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No idea, here's a sword

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[โ€“] cerement@slrpnk.net 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

second a few other comments, a lot of people conflating emoticons and emojis

  • emoticon: ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ
  • emoji: ๐Ÿคท
  • emoticon: =>^.^<=
  • emoji: ๐Ÿฑ
[โ€“] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's understandable. Back in the old old days, these ๐Ÿ˜ฑ were often called emoticons. The reason was that the chat software that people used to automatically replaced ;-) by ๐Ÿ˜‰. The menu was the same and the name of this menu was emoticon.

One of the most famous example of this is MSN Messenger.

People keep the habit to call them emoticons.

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In the old old days, emojis didnโ€™t exist yet, until NTT DoCoMo created them for mobile phones. Emoticons predate them.

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[โ€“] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

My hypothesis: Lemmy has an older userbase, and in general older people feel less of a need to express their emotions. They're busier discussing the topic than highlighting their attitude towards it.

Perhaps cultural reinforcement plays a role, too. As emoticons and emojis are less used, they feel more out of place, so people who'd use them elsewhere avoid them here.

[โ€“] Maestro@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

My 80 old father-in-law spams emoticons like he's a 15 year old girl. Cringe-worthy and hillarious at the same time ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 11 months ago

I use emojis only because my phone suggests them at the end of sentences ๐Ÿ™ƒ

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

For me emoticons were something that started when all of the boomers came to Facebook. Floods and floods of useless emojis left and right. So now I feel weird using them, like I'm cheapening the platform while also acting like the people that ruined Facebook for me

[โ€“] Dave@lemmy.nz 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are emojis considered emoticons? Call me old but I think this is an emoticon ;-) and this is an emoji ๐Ÿ˜‰

[โ€“] ambiance 8 points 11 months ago

Agreed! Although the little image things on message boards like phpBB, ProBoards and Invision were also emoticons, even though they were basically early onset emojis

[โ€“] Sabata11792@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

Emoticons are old internet. Emojis are boomer, normie, and corpo friendly translations.

[โ€“] Slow@lemmy.today 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I have a negative attitude to standard emoticons built into Android and iOS. They donโ€™t look good, theyโ€™re too many.

I'm interested to know who uses emoticons depicting, for example, player rewind icons or rectangular shapes. Are there people who use these emoticons at least once a year?

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[โ€“] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ITT: People conflating emojis and emoticons.

[โ€“] pistachio@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In msn messenger emoticons were what emojis are today. So to me emoticons and emojis are the same... i dont what to call the things op refers to... maybe ASCII emoticons?

Edit: turns out im wrong https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoticon

Edit: sort of wrong... emojis are also officially called emoticons

[โ€“] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All these people singing the praises of emoticons over emojis, and not a single XD to be seen. I know you're old enough to remember the XD times! XD you cowards!

[โ€“] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

I xD all the time ๐Ÿ˜ค

[โ€“] charonn0@startrek.website 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Emoticons are like swear words.

I use them sparingly not because I disapprove of them, but to preserve their effectiveness.

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[โ€“] Perfide@reddthat.com 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A lot of us came from reddit where it was considered taboo to use emojis.

[โ€“] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also Reddit didnโ€™t support emojis for a long time. But yeah, it was considered very โ€œnormieโ€ (hate that term but applicable)

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[โ€“] AzureInfinity@leminal.space 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I find them obnoxius, just like inserting animated gifs and meme responses. If used in serious context it makes the whole post look cringe, using them to replace words is fit only for smartphone troglodytes sending character-limited posts/SMS.

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[โ€“] grahamja@reddthat.com 16 points 10 months ago

Everything after ascii art was a mistake. It feels childish to use emoticons, a lot of users here grew up on platforms that only had text and to see emoticons is jarring. Needing to use an image for emotional context is poor writing.

[โ€“] azimir@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Aside from using them in reactions during discussions with group that I know (Discord, Chat/Hangouts), they're too fuzzy in definition to be useful in conversations. When reading on Lemmy if I run into emoticons, I just skip over them as noise in the stream. I don't even try to figure out what the person is trying to convey since I'm not going to be able to track whatever the latest trends are in their meaning. It's the same reason you don't spam a public forum like this with youth slang if you want to communicate with a wide demographic of members.

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[โ€“] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think most oldies are embarrassed by them. I'm not though, but I only surf the world wide web from my phone, so perhaps I'm more hip ๐Ÿ˜Ž

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think people ๐Ÿ˜˜ find them more obnoxious ๐Ÿ˜ฑ than informative, and rate ๐Ÿ’ฏ opinions higher than ๐Ÿ˜œ emotional reactions, because emotions are ๐Ÿค‘ cheap and add nothing to a constructive ๐Ÿ—๏ธ discussion

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[โ€“] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

๐ŸคŸ That's... Metal, man.

[โ€“] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago

We prefer to use our words.

[โ€“] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

(๏พ‰โ—•ใƒฎโ—•)๏พ‰*:๏ฝฅ๏พŸโœง

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[โ€“] not_amm 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't like to have to press a button, then search for an emoji. Emoticons are faster to write, I mostly use the :), :/, etc.

I changed that in Mastodon, for example. Someone told me that screen readers have trouble reading emoticons, so I mostly use stickers or emojis there.

[โ€“] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's very thoughtful of you colon right parenthesis

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[โ€“] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The yoots make fun of me when I do :(

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[โ€“] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

Usually I only use them when I personally know who I'm talking to. Because who knows how a random person will react to an emoji, misunderstanding their meaning, unintentionally or intentionally.

I also sometimes use them to indicate how casual my post is and should not be taken too seriously.

[โ€“] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm coming from the old ages of internet where we didn't have them. I'm fine with them, but I'm too old to use them comfortably.

It's fine. Use them if you like, but I don't really see the value in systems such as Discord where you pay money to have special emojis and so on...

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[โ€“] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

well I don't have such a menu for those premade faces, so I just use emoji's instead..., those larger ones take up too much space imo.

I'll use :) , :(, :/, :P, :D, :|, ;) :O, XD... they are nice and compact and get the point across.

[โ€“] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

I'm used to calling those emoticons. Emojis are things like ๐Ÿ‘ถ๐Ÿฆˆ๐ŸŽถ

[โ€“] jackpot@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] TheEntity@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

Back in my day we called them avatars, youngster!

[โ€“] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 months ago

Tis but a flesh wound

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[โ€“] ThePac@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can use them if I want. ๐Ÿ™‚

I just don't feel like it ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

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[โ€“] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] Nuklia@lemdro.id 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

~{โ—โ–กโ—}~

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[โ€“] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think my Lemmy client does not support emojis, but it supports Lenny faces. Maybe that's why, Lemmy loves Lenny ส• อกยฐ ส–ฬฏ อกยฐส”

[โ€“] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No idea, but if you list social media platforms by use of smilies it would be Instagram > Facebook > YouTube > reddit > Lemmy

There seems to be potential for a correlation with intelligence.

[โ€“] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 8 points 11 months ago

And the unfounded snobbery award of the day goes to

[โ€“] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Wow, my brain doubled in size just reading this comment

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