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My disenchantment is based on how differently the current administration reacts to 2 conflicts: Ukraine-Russia and Gaza-Israel, in the latter supporting Israel’s indiscriminate war against Palestinian civilians with the excuse to exterminate Hamas. This post summarizes my disappointment after finally accepting that the US is not the benevolent hegemon I thought it was and how even the supposed American liberals, the democrats, while publicly calling the Israeli government to restrain itself, keep sending them every weapon they ask for and protect them at the UN with our veto. I’m now politically orphan.

I always thought America stood against bullies, America was the great nation, a country where we help others protect their human rights, fight authoritarianism of any kind, be it left, right, religious… the way we did with Ukraine against Russia. Ukraine fits here because authoritarian Putin decided he couldn’t accept an independent Ukraine anymore: I’m all for sending Ukraine the means they need to defend themselves to deny authoritarian Russia a successful occupation. The Ukrainian war is not a morally gray one like the ones in Iraq or Afghanistan, this one is black and white. Putin has to be stopped. America is here on the right side of history supporting Ukraine.

However, in Gaza, America doesn’t act like the benign hegemon I thought we were, but like a external power supporting a client state: Our government supports the indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian civilians in the name of fighting terrorism and calls everybody that questions the narrative that Israel is fighting against terrorists an antisemite, yet ignoring that Gaza has been an open air prison for 20 years and that these conditions make it ideal for fanatics and hate to thrive.

No, I’m not an Islamist (I don’t care about any religion) and no, I don’t want Israel to be wiped off the planet and no, I don’t have anything against Jews or Israelis, and no, I don’t deny the holocaust and the 6 millions of Jews who were murdered. It’s ridiculous to have to say this before even criticizing Israel.

America loves to support Israel’s right to defend itself, yet this same right in practice means carte blanche to kill Palestinian civilians as well, destroying their hospitals and their capability to function as a normal society. The Israeli army and government are not behaving any better than the Hamas fanatics that invaded Israel and killed 1300 Israeli civilians, the Israeli army has killed far more Palestinian civilians than Hamas did when they invaded Israel, yet simply saying what I did, simply comparing both sides like I did or calling for a cease fire gets you labeled an antisemite, hoping that simply uttering those words will make everybody rally against you and justify killing Palestinians.

A life is a life everywhere. All lives matter.

No, not every Palestinian is a terrorist, yet the media and the Israeli and American right insist in no making distinctions, make no effort to create a separate Palestinian state and keep not questioning the conditions of deprivation that will make another violent reaction against Israel in 20 years possible, when the current Palestinian children, now bombed and homeless, grow up and reach maturity, accusing Hamas of hiding behind civilians, ignoring that the policies of the Israeli right created them.

And our government does nothing to stop that. Worse, keeps arming and protecting the other side, the more powerful side.

Where do I go now?

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[–] t3rmit3 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm truly in the same boat as you.

"You need to push this button that kills innocent people, to counteract the people pushing the button that kills more innocent people." really seems to be the only argument anyone can muster for why I should vote at all in this system.

Participating in a system that only aspires to offer different numbers of murdered Innocents isn't a very morally compelling stance, and because there is no vote on individual stances of a candidate, any vote is a blanket endorsement of ALL of the candidate's stances.

Fuck this country.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're not pressing the button yourself, you're voting for which one gets pressed. By not voting, you're basically saying "I don't care which button gets pressed, even if one of them is objectively worse".

It's a shitty situation to be in but unfortunately there are lots of people in your country who are rabid about pushing that worse button.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah. You can protest against the candidate you voted for and it is fine to vote for someone in a general election you voted against in the primary.

And it is important to participate because the loss of a vote may affect other elections down the ticket who are better representing you.

[–] t3rmit3 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You are literally pushing a button on a voting machine that says, "put this person in charge of the weapons, who says they're going to use the weapons to kill people".

Just because both buttons you can choose result in dead people doesn't make the dead caused by one more okay than the dead caused by the other.

[–] HumbleFlamingo 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Both buttons result in dead people, but one button results less dead people.

The choices suck, but the less shitty choice should be pretty obvious.

[–] t3rmit3 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Of course the less shitty choice between the 2 main candidates is obvious. There are also other choices, and some of those are even less shitty. Arguing for only ever voting for the less shitty of the top-2 just means nothing will ever change. You go vote for murderers if you want, just don't tell yourself it makes you a good person because you pick the less prolific murderer.

"I voted for Goebbels instead of Hitler, so I'm a hero!"

[–] HumbleFlamingo 4 points 10 months ago

Go vote for non-murderer if you want, just don’t tell yourself it makes you a good person because you pick the one who can't possibly win and let the bigger murder win.

“I ignored the shitty reality of the situation, so I’m a hero!”