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• student brought a bb gun to class and fired it at the japanese exchange teacher
• graduating year kids decided to "prank" a pregnant teacher by covering the stairs to her office in slippery material (eggs, iirc)
• another graduation "prank" was to let horses out of their field; they got onto train tracks and, well ... no more graduation pranks
• history of teachers and staff sexually abusing students
• graveyard full of dead monks

wait this was a private catholic school nvm

it's hard work! I struggle with it myself, everyday

here's a secret, though: you're good, actually, even if you don't Do Thing. I will believe this for you, even if your brain won't

if neither works then you might as well be kind to yourself, ne

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“Considered Harmful” Considered Harmful, 2002

Ethics aside, piracy is illegal, and most service providers include a clause that you can't do illegal shit with their service. Even utilities providers aren't immune to "we live in a society with, like, laws and stuff". Taking them out of private companies' hands won't do anything about that.

And kiwifarms aren't doing piracy, harming (maybe) the profit margin of some megacorp. They're enabling and encouraging the harm of other vulnerable people, up to their deaths. If your electricty provider has an acceptable use policy that contains "don't use the electricity we give you to hunt and kill your enemies" and you Do That, again and again, they're within their rights (and arguably, ethically obligated) to stop you electrocuting people with the electricty they distribute.

Don't like it? Get it changed at the right level. Lobby for the decriminalization of electrocution^W copyrighted materials distribution, or whatever. Shouting "ISPs can't do that!!!" while people die doesn't stop people dying.

This isn't "Hurricane Electric haet kiwifarms"; this is KF abusing the service HE provides to the detriment of both society at large and other members of the Internet ecosystem.

I'm with HE on this one. KF is absolutely against their ToS, and if the various middle providers between HE and KF aren't going to step in, they're within their rights to drop that traffic.

At this level the Internet is still somewhat decentralized. KF can continue to find other hosts and ISPs that condone their horror, and said providers and peers have the right to drop them for being terrible. KF could build a datacenter, register their own ASN, negotiate peering agreements, broadcast routes, and other providers could still refuse to peer with them. I think this is good, actually.

but what about The Slippery Slope? next conservatives will be making ISPs take down vulnerable minorities! shouldn't legislation be handling this?

The conservative folks are already attacking LGBTQ+ and any other minorities they want via legislation. Why would anyone think this is a good argument?

I'm with HE on this one. KF is absolutely against their ToS, and if the various middle providers between HE and KF aren't going to step in, they're within their rights to drop that traffic.

At this level the Internet is still somewhat decentralized. KF can continue to find other hosts and ISPs that condone their horror, and said providers and peers have the right to drop them for being terrible. They could register their own ASN, broadcast routes, and other providers could still refuse to peer with them. I think this is good, actually.

but what about The Slippery Slope? next conservatives will be making ISPs take down vulnerable minorities! shouldn't legislation be handling this?

The conservative folks are already attacking LGBTQ+ and any other minorities they want via legislation. Why would you think this is a good argument?

i used to just_post

i low key miss it

it was truly the only good subreddit

post post post i wanna see ur posts

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whoa whoa whoa

how can we have a flamewar if youre going to be all reasonable like that