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[–] Digital_Eclipse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://archive.ph/OLGDp paywall

At first I was like wtf is with this author. I'm millenial/gen z and even I remember what we did. TV, books, and calling your friends on your wired phone attached to the wall.

But as I read the article, I kinda get it. There was a ton of down time and boredom. However, I disagree that the nothingness was this horrible thing. I think the "nothing ever happens" is what our brains handle much better than "there's too much happening."

Our brains literally can't process the firehose of information streaming into our eyeballs 24/7 365. It starts to go in your eyes and right out your ears. My memory is shit now. I'm forgetting important stuff because it keeps getting deleted to make room for more garbage data like endless dank memes and posts. I think the nothingness, along with REM sleep (which is also disrupted by screens), is what's needed to help process and therefore retain new information.

I'm trying to spend less time on screens because it feels like dementia and it's freaking me out.

[–] Rentlar 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was smaller but I had a glimpse of the life before smartphones. The generation before any kind of widespread telephony is dying out but since then, people called each other a lot, like a lot a lot. They watched TV in the mornings and evenings, ran errands, read the paper, went to bars, hobby clubs and nightclubs, cafes. We still do that now, but you have to make a concious effort to avoid using a computer or smartphone.

So many passes, cards and memberships are now digital, I kind of miss the feel of carrying plastic and paper cards.

[–] jarfil 16 points 2 years ago

We also had books, and we still do.

Just yesterday, on a bus, among a sea of people on their smartphones and a kid with a tablet, I saw a young lady reading a book.

Some people still watch TV in the mornings and evenings, during breakfast and dinner.

Reading the paper is probably what's mostly been replaced by smartphones.

[–] GreyShuck 8 points 2 years ago

Archive.is link..

Personally, I always used to carry a paperback with me and would read in the odd moments that this writer seems to recall as being so dull and soul destroying. I still do carry e-books on my phone of course and use them in exactly the same way - but also with the option of doomscrolling, of course.

As for TV, I was never one for TV - or radio - as background noise. With fiends, I had a bit of reputation of going round and turning such things off when I entered the room, so that we could talk without distraction. I would ask them first, of course.

[–] fyve@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Meditated / mindfulness more. Listened to radio/music more. Collected physical media to play in cars or tv players. Physical books! For me, smartphones have only filled in small gaps while waiting, when I retire looking forward to getting rid of it. Personal social media has never worked for me, I can’t really create new connections this way. It’s all just temporary garbage fluff!

[–] verbalbotanics 4 points 2 years ago

It's interesting, mindfulness and meditation really weren't that popular, at least in a mainstream way, before smartphones got popular. I feel like a big part of why it blew up was pretty much because people were feeling overwhelmed with modern multitasking and needed an outlet.

[–] Abridgedlife@latte.isnot.coffee 8 points 2 years ago

I remember reading an article saying the creativity that comes only after you experience profound boredom is what we’ve lost. We have so many options so easily available, the next dopamine hit is only ever minutes away a lot of people never need to make it past superficial boredom

[–] jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago

I was, and still am, fine with my own thoughts. I intentionally go places without my phone that I know I'll be standing around waiting. Bus stop to pick up my kid, restaurant to grab lunch, quick trip to the store. It's nice not having the option to distract myself with it and the feeling of being entirely disconnected knowing if "something terrible happened" I wouldn't be able to reach anyone instantly is a lot more calming than it sounds.

[–] OneRedFox 5 points 2 years ago

I read books, played games on consoles, watched TV, phoned my friends (over landline), pursued hobbies, and did random shit like seeing how many different ways I could stack a group of plastic cups. People like to shit-talk boredom, but it's good to be bored occasionally.

The power supply in my desktop tower shit itself a few months ago and I spent a week without an internet device. There was a fair amount of boredom as I realized how neglected meatspace had become in my area, but this was also a week of peak productivity since I no longer had a nagging feeling of having something better to do all the time. Honestly, it was nice. It's more convenient to have internet access, but disconnecting is nice.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago
[–] sphere_au@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago

Reading books, listening to music or just getting on with things - but there were definitely replacements for modern mobile social media. Sending long SMS messages, or before that, email, or before that, physical snail mail or spending hours on a wired landline phone talking to someone. Occasionally using an internet cafe or satellite phone. Chatting, messaging or gaming on BBS's. And so on.

[–] elfpie 3 points 2 years ago

The same, but in a different way. Is there something that's exclusive to smartphones?

[–] Idrunkenlysignedup 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My parents kept Easyrider Magazine on the back of the toilet since my mom worked there (accounting or collections or something). Sure as a teen you're a horn ball, but since it had been there for most of my life boobs kinda didn't hold the magic (kinda).

Edit for clarification: it was mostly a biker lifestyle magazine. It had pictures of boobs but it was mostly about Harleys and biking.

[–] drwho 2 points 2 years ago

I carried a paperback book or two around with me. Still do. I also carried a small dead-tree notebook around with me, with a Fisher Space Pen stuck in the spiral binding to make notes on. Still do (because smart devices run out of power and break, but paper doesn't) but I don't use it much.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

Well, i grew up in an odd time. I was 15 in 2010 when i got my first smartphone. I had 2 flip phones before that though. I had a laptop (eith dial-up since we were super rural) from 2007ish to 2010 and could only go online from 8-10PM. Before all that i did quite a bit of reading and watching TV. I remember our cellphones having 700 anytime minutes to share and unlimited nights and weekends starting at 9PM. In some ways those were the days and in other ways i am glad they are gone. I thi k growing up with limited access to the internet may very well have been a good thing. Dial-up is a great teacher of patience.

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