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Well I'm craving something in this genre but I'm a bit overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time. So many titles and yet I'm not sure what to read. Maybe you can help?

I'm looking for something in a high fantasy setting. I'm not too keen on heavy politics and war driven plots (though, I can read that ). What really gets me is interesting characters, good action and magical creatures.

I've loved anything Discworld and I've also enjoyed the First Law books by Abercrombie.

I'm finding that Tolkien, Sanderson and George RR Martin appear on every fantasy list I come across, so if you do recommend something I'd appreciate it be something other than that.

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[–] count_borrell@mander.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I highly recommend the Earthsea book by Ursula Le Guin (I actually recommend all of her books) and the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser by Frtiz Lieber. Especially if you are looking for something that is a quick read and not a 20 book, 50 billion page series.

Also the Drizzt novels by R. A. Salvatore, while not the same level of quality, are fun.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

I've read only The left hand of Darkness by Le Guin and I totally didn't cry, you understand? If at any point anyone tells you that, they're disgusting liars trying to tarnish my reputation. That aside, I really enjoyed the book and Earthsea was on my list of potential reads. I've never heard of the other recommendations, will keep in mind. Thanks

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I recently reread The Dark Elf Trilogy after a long, long time and I still quite liked it. It's funny how differently I see the themes of the first book now than I did as a teenager.

I also remember Weis and Hickman's Draconlance Chronicles trilogy being a fun read back in the day.

[–] Nerorero@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] devils_advocate@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

None of the suggestions above talk about comedy fantasy. Is there anyone close to the master? GNU

[–] ringwraithfish@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea series is a good one. Unlike most authors in this genre who tend to be overly descriptive and feel the need to develop the lore of every squirrel in the kingdom, Le Guin writes really tight, well thought stories, where every word is important to the story.

[–] BraveSentry@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

You might want to look at Robin Hobbs' work.

[–] red_concrete@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So many suggestions possible with that prompt.

I might suggest the Vlad Taltos series, starting with Jhereg, by Steven Brust. Reaslistic characters, snappy dialog, interesting premise of human's status in the society, and a pretty far-out series of villains. It comes down to more or less a first person assassin- / intrigue-based plot with cleverly set-up who-dunnit elements here and there, and an overarching storyline, and a good sense of the universe.

Some good suggestions in this thread. If you want even more options - I have been tapping into this Slashdot thread for a decade now, and it's still giving me winners - which might not work for you, mind (e.g ."Little, Big" by Crowley, it led me to "To Reign in Hell" also by Brust, "Jack of Shadows" by Zelazny,)

[–] zedhank@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yay Dragaera! More people need to read about Vlad Taltos!

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestion and link!

[–] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of good recommendations here. I'll just leave some +1s for a few I've seen here that I've enjoyed.

Blacktongue Thief: A thief tries to rob the wrong warrior and gets wrapped up in a quest to a distant land besieged by giants. The first of a trilogy, but the ending gives you enough closure to be a standalone read while also setting up where the story will go. Personally, I enjoyed the first-person narration which gives you a colorful look at a somewhat non-conventional fantasy world, although it's still fantasy. If you liked Abercrombie then you might like this. There's a similar focus on flawed characters trying to do the best they can. There is some war and politics but they are firmly in the background and far from the main focus.

Legends and Lattes: A retired adventurer opens up a coffee shop in a land that has never heard of coffee. I'm not sure if "cozy fantasy" was a thing before this book, but it's been held up as an archetypal example. The plot is low-stakes and focuses on the characters and the difficulties of running a small business. Makes a good palate-cleanser between denser reads. No war or politics.

Kings of the Wyld: A retired group of adventurers has to come together for one last job after their leader's daughter ends up trapped in a city besieged by monsters. Admittedly how much you enjoy this one depends on how novel you find the idea of adventuring groups being treated as rock and roll groups. Like literally being a stand-in for rock and roll bands with groupies, managers, and all of that. I've seen some criticism that the book doesn't have much going for it beyond that which is a bit unfair. Following a bunch of middle-aged heroes past their prime was refreshing and I think the author did some interesting things with the main character who only uses a shield in combat and whose main motivation is to make it back to his wife and daughter in one piece. Very little war and politics.

Also, I don't think he's been recommended but you might want to check out Mark Lawrence's Broken Empire trilogy. Admittedly it's not typical high fantasy and it is somewhat heavy on war and politics, but if you liked the grittier, grounded feel of Abercrombie then you might like it. It is arguably darker though and the main character straddles the line between dark anti-hero and outright villain protagonist for at least the first book. But it might be worth checking out if you really liked the First Law trilogy.

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[–] FATMANinnaOVERCOAT@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Name of the Wind By Patrick rothfuss.

Still waiting on that third book 5o come out though. It's only been 17 years. It'll happen any day now. 🥲

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My luck it'll come out the day after I die.

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[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least we have a novella coming out in 2 weeks....

But Rothfuss still owes us the full cast reading of the first few chapters of Doors of Stone. That he set as a fundraiser goal two years ago and promised would be available the following February!

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Glory Road' by Robert A. Heinlein. Takes all the common fantasy tropes and kicks them in the nads.

[–] wombatula@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love how the other races don't trust Humans, because we are always in "mating season" and they lose their minds during theirs, so assume we are always loopy because of ours.

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[–] kyle@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'll add a +1 to some mentioned:

  • Cradle series - progression fantasy, basically DBZ or Naruto style progression with a magic system, intelligent beasts/dragons, demigods, etc.
  • Night Angel Trilogy - street rat turned assassin with magic. I feel like it leans pretty heavily into fantasy tropes, but they're fun reads.
  • Kings of the Wyld - this book is fucking hilarious. The main characters are basically a kickass D&D group but it's 20 years later, they're old and fat, and have to go on one last epic adventure.
[–] CylustheVirus 2 points 1 year ago

Might as well mention Week's Lightbringer series too .

[–] learnbyexample@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

+1 for Cradle already mentioned. I'd add

  • The Riyria Revelations by Michael J. Sullivan
  • Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames
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[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I advocate to expand people's thinking of the fantasy genre beyond the usual Euro-centric elves, dwarves, and wizards type stuff.

As such, a fantasy book I recommend is based off of Persian magic and setting is called The Wrath and the Dawn. It is based off of the Arabian Nights legend of that region.

Well, my other recommendation is not a book because it was a web comic, BUT, it fits the fantasy genre. What makes it unique is the fantasy elements are based off of Aztec gods and magic. It is called Leyendas: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/leyendas/list?title_no=63874

There is another fantasy web comic with middle eastern elements called Suihira The City of Water: https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/suihira-the-city-of-water/list?title_no=39385

[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Memory, Sorrow, & Thorn series by Tad Williams is my all time favorite. I also noticed that I relate to different characters as I age which makes rereading it a fun experience.

[–] hybridhavoc@darkfriend.social 3 points 1 year ago

@Aviandelight @Mothra This is a great series. I recently did a re-read and it still holds up.

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Tad Williams - Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn trilogy. On par with Tolkien and Martin IMHO

[–] Unebrion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn't so much dragons, but it it is fantasy. The Cradle series by Will Wight is phenomenal. If you're a fan of audio books they are all available in that format also, narrated by Travis Baldree

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[–] bismuthbob@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Michael Moorcock's Elric books tick all of the boxes in your list. So do his Corum and Hawkmoon books.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

The Diamond Age kinda counts?

[–] ystael 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A few I've enjoyed that aren't mentioned elsewhere so far:

  • Robin McKinley, The hero and the crown. If you've never read this, please, just go and do so, if you read nothing else on this entire response. The Newbery Medal it got was well deserved. (And it has princesses and dragons and wizards.)

  • Louise Cooper, Indigo (8 short books). Sealed ancient evil, cursed protagonist on heroic journey, talking animal companion. Just lots of fun all around.

  • Lois McMaster Bujold, The curse of Chalion series. Maybe a little more politics than you are looking for, but the divinity/magic system works well and I appreciate that the viewpoint characters are generally kind of old and busted. She is of course better known for the (excellent) Miles Vorkosigan military space opera series.

  • Sarah Monette and Elizabeth Bear, A companion to wolves et seq. Exactly what it says on the tin; the catch is that the viewpoint character of the first book becomes bonded to a female wolf, which radically changes how his culture sees him.

  • Elizabeth Moon, The deed of Paksenarrion. Basically what you'd get if you wrote down a really good D&D campaign (but mostly for only one viewpoint character). Formulaic in spots but enjoyable and well executed.

Other replies have mentioned Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos books, which I enjoyed a lot; and David (and Leigh) Eddings, which were my first big-kid fantasy novels (as for many other other American children of the 70s and 80s). Another long series in something of the same vein as Eddings is Raymond E. Feist's Riftwar saga; I haven't read the entries after 2000, but before that it was a lot of fun.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the detailed response! Will keep in mind

[–] ChiefSinner@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eyes of the dragon by Stephen King. Its an excellent fantasy novel ... Not a horror novel. The antagonist, Flagg, is the same wizard in the dark tower series and the stand, though those don't have dragons and such in them.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

dragons

there's one, it's mounted on the wall :D

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Malazan book of the fallen is the best epic fantasy series I've ever read

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Hm, not keen on heavy politics or war. Was gonna recommend Malazan: Book of the Fallen but the first book starts out in a war. Still, good book, you might enjoy it.

Second book is a little different than what you're describing. Fool Moon from the Dresden Files series. Pulpy magical detective noire set in modern times, where magic is sort of accepted as a real thing.

[–] Darkrai@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really liked the Night Angel series, The Way of Shadows is the first book.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Currently rereading the Belgariad and will likely go straight into the Mallorean. Probably my favourite "traditional" fantasy series.

But my all time favourite fantasy series is The Death Gate Cycle by Weiss and Hickman. But is very much not your traditional fantasy setup. It's got wizards, dragons, elves, etc... but in very very non-traditional worlds. Can't recommend it enough.

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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My fantasy go-to series is The Chronicles of Amber. Roger Zelazny was a poet, and it comes out in his prose. Dude evokes visions inside your mind.

The universe is a collection of infinite reflections between order (ie Amber) and the Courts of Chaos. Corwin is one of the nine princes of Amber, an immortal who can travel between the reflections.

I read the first five books of the series every few years. But word of warning, the first book reflects the casual chauvinism of the the time it was written. Worth powering through those bits though.

The last five books are okay, but nowhere as good as the first five.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Reading Wheel of Time and I'm really enjoying it

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'm saving this thread for later because I'm interested in this genre, I am totally new to books, I haven't even read LOTR, The Hobbit, Game of Thrones or House of the Dragons books, I have only consumed that through the movies and TV Shows, but seems like there are some really neat suggestions here.

[–] lostbard@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of good suggestions already. I might recommend Uprooted by Naomi Novik, The Story of Silence by Alex Myers, or The Haunting of Tram Car 015 by P. Djeli Clark.

[–] jokerwing 2 points 1 year ago

Uprooted was super fun. I really enjoyed it's system of magic and slightly creepy evil

[–] Penguincoder 3 points 1 year ago

Give The Prince Of Nothing series a read. A bit more of a philosophical series than a hack and slash fantasy.

[–] 73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My longtime favs (apart from LOTR by Tolkien) are:

  1. The Realm of the Elderlings series bei Robin Hobb
  2. Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams
  3. Ea Cycle by David Zindell
[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Have you considered Kate Elliott novels? Jaran was amazing if you like sci-fi/fantasy crossover, or King's Dragon if you like pure fantasy. If you prefer easier reading check out the Dragonriders of Pern series.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

You say fantasy, but while technically sci fi, I'd like to suggest the galactic milieu series by Julian May. It starts out sci fi and I guess constantly has sci fi elements but leans pretty heavily into bridging the gap to fantasy (elves, dwarves, shapeshifting monsters, magic etc)

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

One for the Morning Glory by John Barnes

The King of Elfland's daughter, by Lord Dunsany

[–] radiantshackles@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Blacktongue Thief by Christopher Buehlman

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Oh also the Demon Cycle series by Peter V Brett was a fun romp. I like the way the author built a pretty unique world with a lot of different aspects to it. He did a good job of switching the point of view across characters to challenge perspective.

[–] Zavasay@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should get on goodreads and look up books you loved to see what else is recommended from people who also read that book. I find great ones that way!

Otherwise I absolutely could not put “Forth Wing” down by Rebecca Yarros! The second book (five are expected) comes out in a week or two. A friend recommended it and it was so good I fell into a slump afterwards trying to find something as exciting.

[–] CylustheVirus 2 points 1 year ago

The Lies of Locke Lamora is a fun fantasy heist book

The Book of Three is the first in a classic high fantasy series. It's a lovely comfort read, but definitely targeted at younger readers.

You might consider Nix's Abhorsen series for a unique take on Necromancers.

Foundryside is wild and fun if not a hugely traditional fantasy. Imagine if you could carve sigils on objects to make them ignore reality in very specific ways.

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