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[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] interolivary 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's the thing though. They're not monsters, they're regular humans, just like eg. the Nazis were.

Which I think is honestly a lot worse. The "average person" is perfectly capable of committing unspeakable atrocities, as long as they can be convinced the targets are Others, not in their in-group.

We really fucking suck as a species

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being regular humans doesn't stop them from being monsters. The only real monsters are people.

[–] interolivary 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that's a valid viewpoint.

Personally I think calling someone a monster just makes them sound like they're not quite human, or that they're somehow "set apart" from regular humans. That's how you get the comments like "seems most people can't recognize a monster when they see one" somewhere in this chain

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people who support shit like this aren't monsters, but the people who systematically target out-groups for political purposes are, and I reckon that includes most of the people who actually pass legislation.

The trick is to convince people to quit putting monsters into positions of power, but it seems most people can't recognize a monster when they see one.

[–] interolivary 5 points 1 year ago

They're hard to recognize because they look like regular people, which is what they are. The problem with them isn't that the voters don't see them for the bigots they are; they vote for them because of the bigotry.

People seem to often severely underestimate how downright evil a huge chunk of the population is. There's no convincing them to not vote for bigots because they specifically want bigots.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago
[–] Devi 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I understand the abortion bit. Are they saying abortions can't be restricted in trans men because the wording refers to women?