phillips worst screw self stripping garbage
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That is actually a feature of this design. They were the answer to in-line screwdrivers who had no precise stopping torque: cam-out before the thread is damaged.
I know it's an intentional feature, but it's a bad feature. Camming out damages the head of the screw. This exchanges repairability for manufacturing simplicity. Additionally, the sloped shape makes it possible to use slightly oversized or undersized drivers, further increasing the chance of camming out and damaging the screwhead.
To your point it's a compromised solution for a problem that no longer exists.
Torx is the only head that needs to exist. The rest can go fuck a rusty chainsaw.
Square is really good too.
Phillips and flat head bits fit in a variety of sizes of screw heads. We seem to have chosen convenience over performance.
If memory serves me correctly square drive is patented, & thus requires licensing, which is why it's less commonly used.
Who the hell let someone patent a fucking SQUARE
Square is good for small screws. Under torque the head will tend to break or strip. That said, a torx head does everything a square head does, but better.
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The torx are the most resistant, the rest can also cease to exist.
Anyone who willfully uses a slotted screw on a new project in the presence of even somewhat reasonable alternatives should have a lifetime ban on designing any items for anyone.
Also, use Robertsons, gink.
it’s single valid use: somewhere that you may not have tools but might require an impromptu fix… preferably paired with a much larger screw than technically required so you can use things like coins as a driver
Yeah, like mounting plates for cameras…. Um, I think that’s the only place I’ve appreciated a slot screw
Sewing machine too! Always using scissors to open that slot screw to change the needle
No.
Thumbscrews, or wingnuts.
Torx is great but fuck security torx
security torx
Do you know what's the deal with them except having to pay / find extra bits?
If you're determined enough you can jam a slot screwdriver in a torx and turn it, the security bit makes it so that you have to be REALLY determined when you jam the slot screwdriver in
You could drill your torx but (not advised) or drill the pin(?) on the screw.
I strongly dislike how many times I've stripped a Phillips and used a die grinder to force it to become a flat. Torx is fine.
I used to restore "barn bikes", most of them were Japanese. It took me a while to figure out the difference between Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) and Phillips screws. Of course over the years, a lot of the fasteners had already been cammed out by previous owners using a Phillips screwdriver in a JIS screw. I had to resort to the die grinder method far more than I'd have preferred.
Square is called a Robertson and is the standard for construction in Canada. None of that bullshit Phillips trash.
The real "actual screw".
Canada is a very progressive place it seems
Situation: There are 20 screw standards.
John Corporate: "20 standards... I know, I'll create a new type of screw that will be unique to my corporate overlords and prevent users from repairing their own devices!"
Situation: There are 21 screw standards.
Hex screws are sick tho. Great when there isnt much space to tighten regular screws.
I like pluses and squares. Minuses need to be removed from existence
Minus is great because you can use a butter knife on a pinch to unscrew/screw it
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Robertson, hex and torx should be on that list, the rest of that shit can stay in the scrap bin of designs
Square drive on personal projects, forever and always. Maybe I'm buying the wrong torx, Phillips, and flat screws, but they strip out way too often. I've never had issues with square drive screws no matter where or how I use them
Yup, anytime I'm driving into solid wood, it's square head screws. Phillips heads slip out under the stress and end up stripped.
Look at the history of Phillips screws. They’re designed to torque out. Automobile assembly line workers can’t be trusted to not overtighten them
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Americans will do anything the hardest way possible, huh lol
Robbie superiority.
Square is my favorite but never used in industrial maintenance much. The square combos are on new electrical devices for construction though. I use mostly Phillips/slotted. A few security torx. Lots of hex heads, and all the small electrical terminals are slotted.
Sadly, some of the more exotic ones have been used to dissuade third-party repair. Some repair shops have been on a mission to replace iPhone screws with more common standards to facilitate general access.
6-lobe is life. I got a box of them for a set of stairs I had to rebuild, and the sheer ease of use makes me never want to go back.
Never heard anyone call Torx "6 lobe". But yes, Torx all the way.
That's what it's called on the image and tbh I've never been quite sure what a "torx" was until now.
Anything that is compatible with slotted or phillips is fine.
Triangle, but with bevels. I believe old McDolan toys had those
Also, why has Python its own screws?
We stan Phillips/slot
And please don't forget that spile and double-hex are different, despite both having 12 points.
Hex is the best, cmv
More like screwed in the head
Oh god as a vintage camera collector spanner screws are the bane of my existence
You all shit on Philips, but it seems almost all screws are philips crosses where I live. I've never seen a square screw lol.
If you or any of your friends have wooden decks, check there. That's where I've seen them the most.
I usually see Spanner type screws in my local hospital.
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