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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 122 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Use an ad-filled browser controlled by a megacorp, with an engine built by another megacorp?

Hmmm, I dunno

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget the OS built by a megacorp snorkeling up all your data anyways

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

..that they ask you to actually pay for the privilege. Because remember, windows isn't actually free (and you pay for it if you buy a pre-built).

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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least I can mostly opt out there. Or use Linux

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sure if you trust that the opt-out switches actually work.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

They must do something, or Windows wouldn't constantly turn them back on with every other update.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

and don't get reset the next update.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well, on the other hand, said megacorp finances the only other engine (Gecko, Blink being a fork of Apples Webkit), so they don't have to bother with monopoly restrictions.

Current web is broken.

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I realize this, but technically Mozilla is still an independent entity. They also fight some Google attempts at Web DRM, so it's still healthy competition

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[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t worry Gill it will set itself back as default next Tuesday

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've never had that happen. Either the US version of Windows is fucked, or people are bullshitting hard.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm in the US and have never ran into half of the stuff people say MS forces on them on a daily basis.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this has a lot to do with what license you bought. My old Win8 Pro key install has never had ads and shit pop back up or re-enable candy crush or whatever. One of our shitty laptops at work with a win10 home license I absolutely dread updating because there is some new bullshit nearly every time.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm on 11 home. :/

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[–] bonn2@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had it happen once after a windows update. What it has done is put a shortcut on my desktop enough times that I wrote a script to check for and delete them whenever it does.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still on 10, but half the shit I see people complain about with Windows I've never experienced personally. Maybe I'm just lucky? Maybe I just read? I don't know, but I'm not having the same experience as a lot of people on here.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Well, I switched to Edge for work with the latest Chrome update (since internal apps were Chromium only), and was pleasantly surprised. It actually let me turn off almost all the junk, and is responsive in a way I haven’t seen in a Chromium browser in years.

Safari and Firefox for personal use though, and nothing compelling to make me change that.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The performance is pretty on-par with other major browsers now, but it is the obscene amount of popups built into the browser that irritates me.

[–] WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use edge for work every day, what popups?

[–] _MusicJunkie 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Once you set it up it's fine, but on first opening you have to click through a bunch of menus (no, I don't want to share data, no I don't want to sync my account, and so on). In other browsers it's a small popup in the corner which you can ignore, and just google what you wanted to google. In edge they're fullscreen and you have to click no on each one.

Probably a rather unique problem because I regularly set up new machines, most people just go through it once and never see it again.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You hit the nail right on its head! It's pretty bad that there is no skip all option, and for some of them you have to manually uncheck before continuing.

I'm in the same situation as you where I often work on fresh virtual machines, and so I see this a lot too.

[–] stewie410@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

May be worth building a default config to "install" for those setups; that's saved me quite some time when configuring new/spare machines at work.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe look at ~~Bromite~~Cromite? Open Source Chromium browser where you don't need to disable anything

[–] neme@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bromite has not been updated since January.

One of the old Bromite contributors forked it: https://github.com/uazo/cromite

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[–] odium@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, I'm only allowed to use either Chrome or Edge on my work laptop, so I chose Edge.

Librewolf on my personal laptop and Firefox on mobile tho.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

its based off of chromium, so one would expect it to be as fast as most modern browsers.

its the annoyances built on top of them, and user privacy that matters in a browser nowadays

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This joke was funny when Chrome was superior, but now Edge is actually better.

[–] jim_stark@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Edge is stuff tacked on Chromium. How can it be better?!

[–] melooone@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Isn't chrome also based on chromium? I would argue they are equally bad, because both are proprietary.

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

What does "built for Windows 10" even mean? It's just a browser. It's even cross platform.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Almost everything that runs on Windows was built for Windows. So it's a true statement, but pointless. That's like BF Goodrich advertising their tires as "built for cars".

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[–] words_number@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Edge is pretty good...

...for downloading Firefox.

I wouldn't even use a proprietary browser if they'd pay me for it. Let alone a chromium based one.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even need a browser

winget install Mozilla.Firefox

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[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Windows put a full page ad for windows 11 before my computer started, I'm never upgrading. Hope to God Linux gaming gets better by 2025

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

linux gaming is basically there at this point proton can run most games flawlessly unless you wanna play games with hyper aggressive drm or anticheat it mostly "just works"

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a linux noob, I'd say it 90% there. I got a new computer recently, decided to only install linux to see if I could dump windows entirely, expecting to dualboot eventually. The only problems I've had so far are Curseforge, MC realms, and One Shot. I've got Modded Skyrim and modded Hollow Knight working, I'm incredibly happy with linux gaming.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It needs a larger user base before companies will make the native version for it

By not switching you play into a self fulfilling prophecy

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[–] junezephier@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

Sorry Gil, it's still chromium ;c

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Gee Bing. You really are pathetic. Respect yourself dude.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really liked Edge like a year or two ago. It seems they are trying to destroy it as fast as possible.

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[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

The weirder thing is I was replacing a users desktop the other day and updating default apps. Edge did its usual "pleas love me" bit but then so did Windows Mail as I was changing it to Outlook 365 of all things..

[–] 4rs3n1k@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Edge for 2 years now. No problems whatsoever ever. You can stop begging MS.

[–] Baizey@feddit.dk 9 points 1 year ago

The begging is considered a feature

[–] Sasori323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk, I really like Edge. It just has bad reputation due to Internet Explorer... It is actually very good imo.

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