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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

“How am I in this war?” Musk asks Isaacson. “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

Musk, transparent as ever, makes sure to tell his biographer that it's about peace, man, and has nothing to do with his love of authoritarian regimes.

[–] Sinnz@feddit.de 52 points 1 year ago

Nothing more peaceful than supporting an authoritarian war criminal 🥰

[–] reverendsteveii 20 points 1 year ago

Once the killers have done all the killing they want, peace becomes paramount. Once they've stolen everything they can steal, then theft becomes a crime. A man with a gun kicks in your door, starts eating the food from your fridge and fucks your wife. He's doing good peaceful things and if you resist you're a warmonger.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe if he had any actual knowledge instead of just buying shit and slapping his name on it, he would know that the Internet was originally DARPAnet and was designed for expressly military purposes prior to being co-opted by capitalists.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are enemies of the United States allowed to own national security infrastructure?

[–] owlinsight@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are allowed to be president and run for re-election too so I wouldn't hold my breath

[–] gjoel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Musk qualifies, being South African though.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

They were talking about Trump.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arrest this treasonous scumbag. Slava Ukraini!

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I despise Musk for being a total piece of shit, this isn't treason. Technically, we aren't even allies with Ukraine. The argument could certainly be made that this works against the interests of the United States, but that alone isn't treason because it isn't a crime for citizens to oppose the US, especially when it's private property the US is being lent. Because at that time, the US hadn't signed a contract with Musk yet.

If he did this again, then it would be a breach of contract, but still wouldn't be treason. People being charged with treason is very rare, because it's a such a high bar to meet.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy aided the Kremlin. He's helping russians in their genocide of Ukrainian children. Fuck that pile of shit and lock him up.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. I'm just saying, he's not guilty of treason.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never claimed he was. But he's guilty of being an ally of russia

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

arrest this treasonous scumbag

You literally just did

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[–] jormaig@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

This still makes him an enemy of Ukraine though

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 33 points 1 year ago

Arrest when?

[–] sculd 32 points 1 year ago

Seriously the US needs to take Starlink away from Musk. Its a national security issue at this point.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago
[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you own a new Tesla purchased since he took over Twitter, I suspect you may start having some increased tire and paint bills. I could see it becoming a trend; feels like the kind of thing kids could get into.

[–] Joker@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck that. We don’t need some Tesla version of that Kia challenge shit. I happen to drive a Tesla that I bought when Elon was still cool. I would never buy another thing from him (for a variety of reasons, many of them related to the car), but I’m still stuck with what I have because it’s a bad financial decision for me to change the car now. He already has my money and it pisses me off every day. The last thing I need is some anarchist, vigilante twat slashing my tires to “teach me a lesson”. Go fuck up Elon’s shit instead of taking it out on people who just might feel the same way about him as you do.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holy shit! I'm guessing fighting (even in an EW capacity) for a US adversary is actually a criminal offence, or something similar.

Thanks for the original source, OP. It's hard to trust just a headline these days.

[–] vandermouche@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

As an oligarch, he stands with the other Russian oligarch who need and benefit from this war. If the rouble is at an historical low, the ones who have money in other currencies have an historical purchasing power in Russia...

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 12 points 1 year ago

Man the old geezers really think they still have absolute control over everything and don't realize the ultra wealthy they have enabled are getting and have been operating far beyond the control of the western governments.

God the fucking narcissism of those in charge to think that they still rule with perfect wisdom. I'm waiting for when these companies that the US built leave and take up residence with new hot authoritarian countries and leave misery poverty in their wake.

Singular rich people should not have this much say.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure would be a shame if Starlink got nationalized.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago

Talk about fixing the rural internet problem. That would be amazing.

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“How am I in this war?” Musk asked Isaacson. “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 8 points 1 year ago

I just wonder how much it cost Kremlin to stop the sinking of their fleet?

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please don't use thedailybeast as a source...

[–] smellythief 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes right-wingers sad.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Why do you think wanting a proper source makes someone right wing?

I'm not American and not right wing.

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[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen what kind of website it is?
In this case it was just a summary of a cnn article, linking directly would be better.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With the comms down, the Ukrainian submarine drones packed with explosives “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly,” Isaacson writes, according to CNN.

Wait, does this means the military drone is equipped with starlink antenna? In that case, I think it make sense for a company to not want their product to be used in a military weapon. IIRC many tech companies and even open source projects have extra clauses in their license to forbid use in military weapon. Musk should have warn Ukraine first before they launch it in the field though.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That utter swine!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need more proof than one guy whose trying to sell copies of his book.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

At no point did I say do nothing.

[–] hogart@feddit.nu 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He is Iron Man. Leave him be.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I had to betray the Avengers because Thanos made me scared!"

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Damn Phony Stark

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like aluminum foil man

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