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Sometimes a visual is nice just to help hammer home just how bad things have gotten in parts of the United States. We've got a lot of fighting left to do for trans rights.

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[–] PorkTaco 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've never understood how the "keep the government out of my life" party is also the "I disagree with the way you live your life so I'm going to ban your very existence" party. Do they not see the hypocrisy? What a complete and utter lack of self awareness.

[–] Kwakigra 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Conservatism has exactly one position, and understanding it will provide consistency to the entire political philosophy:

"The government must protect but not bind my group, and it must bind but not protect those not in my group."

[–] karbotect@vlemmy.net 7 points 1 year ago

The more conservatism, the more you go towards feudalism. Where staying poor and obedient for the rich elite is your godgiven duty. Monopolies need to be protected, as they act with god's mandate. Social rights are being formulated by a religious figurehead.

If every American exclusively votes for Conservatives for the next 100 years, America will revert to a confederation of Anglican and Catholic kingdoms.

[–] Azzu@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's actually even simpler imo, "the government should do only and exactly what is convenient for me personally, everything else is irrelevant"

"I don't want to look at those weird trans people, just get them out of my sight", so whatever achieves that is fine with them.

[–] Pandoras_Can_Opener@mander.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's the same party that thinks life is sacred and is also pro death penalty.

[–] Snapz 5 points 1 year ago

No "think" in the approach

[–] HappyMeatbag 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can’t see the hypocrisy, because to them, it isn’t hypocrisy. They’re simply enforcing gods law, and gods law is beyond question. There’s no “argument” to be had.

Faith is maddening to rational thinkers for that reason.

To them, it’s as fundamental as gravity. If someone won’t accept something as simple and obvious as gravity, then they’re the one with the problem.

[–] LucyLastic 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It feels odd to see it laid out graphically, the culture wars really are cutting the US up into bits.

I feel so bad for trans people living there now, and also worried that the far right here in Europe is relentlessly trying the same tactics too (though with less success over all, they've made headway).

[–] BurnTheRight@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't blame culture wars. I blame conservatism. Conservatism is a plague of oppression, sickness and death. It always has been.

It should be socially acceptable to call out fascism in public. Smiling politely and turning the other cheek is how we ended up with this infestation of conservative hatred.

[–] ArtZuron 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Culture wars are a direct result of conservatism, so it makes sense to target the tap root, not the leaves.

[–] Rednovs@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hmm I feel if you replaced conservatism with liberalism you have the same argument but from the right point of view.

Culture war just sounds like the war on drugs or the war on terror to me. Probably be how we waste the next 10 years with nothing to show for it except maybe being closer to extinction.

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That may be, but unfortunately things like nuance are never considered when conservative ideology is involved... Unless it affects them personally.

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[–] detectivemittens 10 points 1 year ago

I’m really disturbed to see far right parties getting small victories and gaining footholds in parts of Europe. I’m terrified about the increasing possibility that all of the west will be dangerous for queer people again.

[–] Nikku772@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moving from FL soon. Fuck this place. Even just as a ally I can’t stand being surrounded by crazy gator fucking bigots. Now I’m born and raised in FL so I like a good gator pussy as much as any FL, but this my point stands.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Where are you moving to?

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Dark times. Trans was barely a blip on the hate radar a decade ago. Obvious manipulation. When you start asking why the answers get scary.

[–] BurnTheRight@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Conservatives should be excluded from one's daily life wherever possible. It is not appropriate to do business with or keep relationships with bigots, racists, misogynists and xenophobes.

Conservatism is a harmful ideology of hate and oppression. It should be openly discouraged and shunned.

[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 22 points 1 year ago

Any mofo that has had a role in pushing this wave of trans and lavender panic has blood on their hands. In a just world, they would feel the pain that their bullshit has been causing.

I’m cis, so it’s our duty to call this shit out wherever we see it. Keep in mind that we’re dealing with fascists, and they don’t respond to reason.

[–] SaintLavellan 20 points 1 year ago

This map breaks my heart.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

florida's "Do Not Travel" status is grim. Something has to be done

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] koalateatime 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You joke but there are trans people in conservative states, and in the south those people are more likely to be people of color and/or people without means to leave.

I understand you likely didn’t mean it that way, but often we get dismissive of the south as a hellhole (which it is) without taking into account the people who actually live there who are disenfranchised and victimized by their own states.

[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

A friend of mine once told me that a lot of the south is large communities of marginalized people being oppressed by a minority of right-wing shitwads. It blew my mind, and I think the demographic data supports that description in a lot of places.

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

more like "federal occupation"

[–] Callie@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we do literally have guns and a second amendment for this very reason. or y'know, we do an ol' classic french move

[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wish I could move from Texas.

[–] reric88 5 points 1 year ago

I wish I could move from Kentucky, as well...

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[–] Curious_Canid@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I'm glad to be in a small pocket of relative sanity in the northern midwest, but that map is appalling.

I had the bright idea to go looking for what pro-hate laws Oklahoma has. Didn't find a list, only found evil and sadness.

If they'd help us leave most or all of us would probably just go. No, that's not good enough, they want to torture and kill us. frustrated sadness noises

[–] koalateatime 11 points 1 year ago

The 5-4 podcast has a very insightful episode on the history and actual effects of the anti-trans laws. Highly recommend!

[–] Callie@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

thats depressing

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

The state retains the power to investigate an individual's birth gender to determine if a crime has been committed simply by using the bathroom - investigations that could involve genital exams, chromosome testing, and more.

This does not only affect trans people. Florida is "do not travel" for EVERYONE.

[–] loops 7 points 1 year ago

Zoe Keating's 'Lost' keeps playing in my head when I read about shit like this.

[–] snowbell 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder where the best place to be a transgender gun owner is these days.

[–] karbotect@vlemmy.net 6 points 1 year ago

New Mexico, New Hampshire or Maine I guess

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[–] HappyMeatbag 3 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of Floridians who smile when they look this map.

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