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I was thinking about that when I was dropping my 6 year old off at some hobbies earlier - it's pretty much expected to have learned how to ride a bicycle before starting school, and it massively expands the area you can go to by yourself. When she went to school by bicycle she can easily make a detour via a shop to spend some pocket money before coming home, while by foot that'd be rather time consuming.

Quite a lot of friends from outside of Europe either can't ride a bicycle, or were learning it as adult after moving here, though.

edit: the high number of replies mentioning "swimming" made me realize that I had that filed as a basic skill pretty much everybody has - probably due to swimming lessons being a mandatory part of school education here.

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[–] ominouslemon@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Speaking more than one language. Being from Switzerland, we're required to study 2 languages (+ our native one) at school. So it's not infrequent to encounter swiss people who speak 4+ languages

[–] aard@kyu.de 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In Germany it's also mandatory - but learning the language at school unfortunately doesn't necessarily mean you can speak it. LucasArts adventures contributed more to my language skills than my first English teacher. I'm always shocked about the lack of English skills in a lot of Germans when I'm back visiting. Rather surprisingly one of my uncles born in the 30s spoke pretty good English, though.

We're now living in Finland - me German, wife Russian, we each speak to the kids in our native language, between each other English. So they're growing up with 4 languages.

It's quite interesting to watch them grow up in that situation. When learning about a new historical figure my daughter always asks which languages they spoke - and few weeks ago she was surprised someone only spoke two languages. So I explained that some people only speak one language - she gave me a very weird look, and it took a while to convince her that I'm not just making a bad joke.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Also Germany.
I learned english in school but only enough to be able to read it.
Once I started reading user submitted short stories (lile fan fics but different) my grammar really improved.
Nowadays the content I consume is basically 90% english based.

Just my capitalization and grammar structure sucks. Also my vocal skills as I have no one to talk to.

But: I really have to thank my last Grundschul and Realschul english teachers. Without those two I may have never got into english that well.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 73 points 1 year ago (7 children)

We learned swimming in primary school in Germany, no opting out.

But having lived in several African countries and now in China, it's surprising how many people not only can't swim, but are deathly afraid of water.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 21 points 1 year ago

If you can't swim, bring desthly afraid of water is a good survival instinct.

After an incident of near-drowning as a toddler, my parents prioritized swimming lessons in my childhood. I can never remember not being able to swim. However, when I was in the military, there was a survival swimming section where you had to get in a pool with full clothing and a weapon, and swim a length. You were supposed to keep the weapon above water at all time. So you're doing a side-stroke with one arm holding a 7lb weight above water, in long-sleeved shirt and pants (I recall being grateful no boots or socks). Most of us California boys made it; lots of people didn't make it with the rifle the whole way, or tapped out without getting anywhere at all. The point is, near the end, when I was exhausted from fighting the water, and it was starting to get hard to keep my head above water, I felt an unexpected panic rising. I can easily believe that if it had gone on much longer, the panic would have taken over and years of swimming experienced would go out the window, and I'd have ended up thrashing futiliy in the water like the guys who dropped out at the start.

Drowning is a singularly frightening experience.

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[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 68 points 1 year ago

Knowing how to swim. Basic life skill in a water-rich country, but many expats can't.

[–] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 55 points 1 year ago (11 children)

In Australia it's not just knowing how to swim but where to swim and when. A lot of tourists drown in the ocean here because they don't know how to read the waves / don't have an understanding of the local area.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never swam in an ocean, could you elaborate?

[–] drsleeplesss@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As an Aussie what the person below has said is a big one here. We just call them rips. Basically if you just try to swim in them normally you won't go anywhere and will just make yourself tired. Same goes if you're caught in a rip and trying to get out. It can lead to people drowning from tiring out and going under. What you want to do is swim diagonally across the rip. Then you can go about your swim or swim safely back to shore. Another tip is if you don't know what a rip looks like then it can be hard to see them from the shore or while your in the water. They aren't waves.

https://www.google.com/search?q=beach+riptide&tbm=isch&client=firefox-b-m&hl=en-GB&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwio2KnNkI6BAxWEamwGHV0UAmwQrNwCKAB6BQgBEK4B&biw=678&bih=708

Another one I think people usually have issues with or you hear of a tourist going missing is swimming in water inland. This is more of an up north Aus thing. Basically if you can't see into the water your going to swim in them don't. Crocs like to hang out in that sort of water. Very easy to not see them at all.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the internet has taught me anything, it's taught me to never swim in Australia. In freshwater, crocodiles will eat you. In the ocean, sharks and saltwater crocodiles will eat you.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also riptides will pull you out, small venomous fish will crawl up your urinary tract, volcanic gases will take away buoyancy from the water so you will sink (plus the poisonous gas will kill you). Oh, and the sun will give you cancer. That is, if you don't get bitten by a spider or snake in your hotel room before you even get to the waterline.

Btw did I mention that basically the entire population is descended from criminals who were sent there as punishment?

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[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Italy.

Cooking, every foreign person I know eats 20x more takeout and fast food than I do.

You remind me of chatting with a friend from Hong Kong and how surprised she was that I, as a young man, knew how to cook and did it for fun.

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[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the dry SW US the answer is drink water when it’s 100F or worse 115F+. Having a half liter of water from the hotel for the half day mountain hike, or pounding a half gallon of ice water and throwing up five minutes later. Your body doesn’t tell you when you should drink, it tells you when you are already behind on drinking.

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[–] eosha@midwest.social 47 points 1 year ago

Dealing with winter. I live in the rural upper Midwest, where winter can hit -20 with whiteout blizzards, week-long power outages, and car-burying snowdrifts. I've seen too many people move here from warmer places and think "I guess I'll buy a warmer coat and a snow shovel", rather than "I should have a backup generator, a backup heat source, a few barrels of spare fuel, a month's worth of stockpiled food, and at least two different pieces of heavy snow-moving machinery tested to be in good working order".

[–] mobilehugh@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago

If the country is big enough (aka Canada) these differences can be between provinces. People from Ontario can't ride bulls, but every kid in Alberta can. Newfoundlanders can fish but Manitobans are afraid of water. In British Columbia you are taught how to roll marijuana cigarette in high school but in Nova Scotia scotch is the bag lunch drink of choice.

[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here in Switzerland the question you ask is usually, "do you ski or do you snowboard"? It's just assumed that you can do at least one.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder, is there a higher rate of knee surgeons in Switzerland than in the rest of the world?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

i'd assume not. If you Ski and Snowboard regularly, like all season or every weekend, you'd know well what to do and have the supporting muscles to reduce the risk of injury. Most people that go there for winter holidays just Ski or snowboard a week in a year, but then all day long. That is more injury prone as the lack of training meets an extensive physical stress.

Also people that do so in sports clubs will have specific training in the pre and post season times.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I guess here in Korea it's eating with chopsticks. In Sweden it was Swimming (especially for my Indian work mates). In Germany it was opening a beer bottle with anything you just happened to have in your hand at that time. In Poland I'm not sure, but probably making those elaborate sandwiches for parties.

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[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I'm Danish. Opening beer with a lighter or other things that aren't technically a bottle opener.

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Norway.

Cross country skiing. It's basically expected for every kid in school to be adaquate at cross country skiing. P. E. classes during winter could often consist of a ski trip, and a couple times per year the schools would arrange ski days with different acrivities on skis.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How to walk on ice is a big one. How to cross a street is another one here in Chicago (hint: look at the cars, not the lights).

[–] percentSValue@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the ice one you mean taking a running start, sliding on it, and yelling weeeeeeeee... Right?

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[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

I grew up in rural Canada, but have been living in major metropolitan areas for most of my adult life. It still surprises me when I learn there are other adults that don't know how to chop wood, start a fire, work basic tools, etc.

[–] idotherock@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rural Japan.

My kids (2 and 4) can use chopsticks already. Plenty of restaurants around here where you won't see a spoon, fork or knife. (However, it's certainly possible to ask the staff for western cutlery, and in the main cities they're more likely to be prepared for that question)

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[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How to stay safe in the wilderness. We get too many people that aren't from around here that think you can do a hike late in the afternoon wearing sandals and only bringing a water bottle. People don't realize that the wilderness is a dangerous place if you aren't prepared. Weather can change rapidly and you need proper clothing and footwear to account for it. Make sure you have enough time for the hike and bring the essentials just in case something happens and you need to spend a night outdoors.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The swimming lesson thing was interesting. I also assumed everyone learned how to swim in school.

[–] BucketHat@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I took swimming classes at my local YMCA after I was able to afford a membership as a young working adult. I was 25 at the time and in my swimming class, I was taught by someone that was much younger than I was and received very odd looks from either the young kids or the elderly folks at the swimming pool learning how to swim.

Despite the odd looks, I kept at it and finally learned how to swim!! I used to be deathly afraid of the water and never went in the deep end as I never knew how to stay afloat.

One thing that was the most difficult to unlearn as an adult was keeping myself perpendicular to the pool as I always relied on being able to stand on the floor pool to keep myself from sinking.

I also realized that chlorine destroys your ability to see the next day after being in the pool. My vision stayed blurry for days and not even my glasses were able to fix it. So if anyone reading wants to learn how to swim at a later age, definitely invest in swimming goggles.

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[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Going by yourself under at least 13 is nonexistent in the United States.

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[–] enteroninternet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Driving. Moved here from Bangladesh to UK. I did a big mistake by not learning to drive in my country. Now its too expensive here to learn. Here driving is required if you want regular job well paying jobs. Don't be like me. Learn how to drive.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Pronouncing local place names. Lots of scattered areas here with place names that are spelled like other places names (for example we got a town called Egypt, a town called Binghamton, etc.) except that they're all pronounced differently. For example, we have a town called Leicester, named after the actual Leicester, and locals tend to raise an eyebrow when someone asks "how do you get to lester" (that would be the normal way to pronounce it)?

"Who's Lester? Is he the new guy in town?"

"What? No, the town."

"That's Leesester, not Lester."

"I'm sorry, wut?"

I of course just add to the confusion if I'm the one to break the news, as I have a Kiwi accent, which is atypical around here. So it becomes a "what do you know" kind of interaction.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

There’s a place in Colorado called Buena Vista, yes, named in Spanish for good view. The locals all state that it’s Spanish. But they want it to be unique, so no, it’s not pronounced bwena. It’s fucking pronounced byunah. They literally know they’re pronouncing it wrong, they claim that it’s Spanish, and then they still say you’re pronouncing it wrong if you actually say it correctly.

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[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 year ago

In my immediate surroundings: small-scale farming. The old folks all know how to run a few goats and sheep, will have a few pigs and chickens, a vegetable garden, some fruit and olive trees, grapes, small fields. Once you figure it out you can feed yourself comfortably, but it's a steep learning curve if you didn't grow up with it. Quite a few foreigners who move in because they dream of self-sufficiency overload themselves with new stuff and become overwhelmed. I still can't compete with my neighbors at gardening after 20 years but I'm getting the hang of it.

[–] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I always think it’s weird when I run into people that can’t whistle or make a horn sound blowing a blade of grass. I’m not even talking like those ear-piercing 2-fingers-in-mouth whistles, just regular Andy Griffith style.

Definitely understand there are many whistling taboos(as there should be, Russia) and some bored rural-ness that factor in.

[–] radix@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never been able to whistle and I'm so sad about it. I can do the grass trick though, and I can also make a whistle/scream sound using an acorn cup.

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[–] Schaedelbach@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Swimming. My brother in law is from India and he never learned how to swim due to him growing up in a place with only one extremely dirty river and no other lakes or swimming pools near his family. Apparently no one in his family can swim. He kinda can swim now but it still looks funny. A bit like I must have looked from the outside when I learned to swim - as a six years old. I always found this very odd because the dude is smart, hard working and has a degree but it took years and him becoming a dad to realize that swimming is something pretty much everyone can.

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[–] ExLisper@linux.community 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Clapping. Spaniards can clap, other people can't. I took me years to figure out what they mean when they say that foreigners can't clap and learn to do it properly.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is clapping something other than slapping your hands together in Spain?

This sounds more like a particular region doing a common thing differently rather than other people not knowing how. Like, I'm pretty sure Americans know how to clap. I've seen them do it. Not to brag, but I've done it a time or two m'self.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yes and no. Of course if you're applauding someone like during a speech or something it doesn't really matter how you clap. But if you're watching live music (especially flamenco but not only) and you're trying to 'accompany' the musicians it does. You often see tourist clapping to some music and not only can't they keep the rhythm they also don't make any sound. Spaniards usually just know how to keep the rhythm, can do complex patterns, can 'double' the claps* and can make them sound nice. If you hit your palms the right way they make this strong snapping sound. Spaniards just know how to do it, for them that's clapping. I had to learn.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Have Spaniards finally cracked the world's greatest mystery and learned how to produce the sound of one hand clapping?

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Seperating Litter, I guess. Many dont do it correctly anyways, but its worse in other countries.

Speaking English I guess. Not the best, but better than in former eastern countries. But yeah, fuck colonialism, so not really a great thing.

Riding the bike. Everyone should do it, and shocking to see many other countries struggle with that even more.

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[–] sacredbirdman@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How to dress for -30C weather. How to get out if you fall through ice into water.

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[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 13 points 1 year ago

how to harvest produce, my town is surrounded from farmland, so we learned how to harvest everything from tomatoes to maize, from lemons to turnips

[–] itmightbethew 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Canoeing. I'm not an outdoorsy guy at all but everytime I see US tourists in a canoe they just spin in circles. It feels like Canadians are just born knowing.

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Skiing is pretty much a must where I live

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sooooo you moved to live in the Netherlands, I assume? Awesome country, do enjoy!

And yes, swimming is a ver basic and required skill there as well

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[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Paying attention to the weather to know if rain or severe winds are coming. I know people have access to hourly forecasts but locals can just tell when the weather will be bad.

  • southern USA
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