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[–] FlashMobOfOne 122 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Good.

One of my good friends was one of the voices on LA Noire years ago and gets zero residuals from it. It's maddening.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

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[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since this strike is against certain companies and not some entity that represents the entire industry like it does for movies and television, that means that other individual companies who come to an agreement can still hire these people, right? If so...imagine if we had that in movies and television.

[–] Zalack@startrek.website 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We do. A24, for instance, is still making a couple movies by agreeing to work under the proposed terms by SAG. As far as I know, no one else has made such agreements yet. The more of such exceptions that get made, the weaker the AMPTP's position will get.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Dropout.tv (formerly CollegeHumour) is also an unstruck company.

[–] Discola@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One more reason to love dropout!

Because they have a different contract for work not covered by the current strike? That seems kind of a weird take, especially since they thought the strike did apply to them originally and they shut down for several weeks until the lawyers got together and said, oh no, you have a different type of agreement.

It's not like they changed or updated their contract to become exempt. SAG just went, oh, your business doesn't fall into the terms of the strike so you don't have to strike with the rest of us.

[–] Zalack@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

I didn't know that! I just subbed to their service for Make Some Noise so I kind of feel better about shelling out for it now.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Oh, I see. I thought all of Hollywood was AMPTP and that's why we can't have nice things like DRM-free movie purchases.

[–] gaael 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never wondered about the conditions of videogames workers, but I'm really happy that they get better thanks to this movement !

[–] theangriestbird 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 10x worse than whatever you're imagining.

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No guarantee anything gets better yet.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And there’s no reason to think it will

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I can provide context with an entertaining and informative video!

https://youtu.be/DN-Hv3pnVz0?si=y11gki97RBZ5paQa

Shout out to Matt McMuscles who makes these. What a champ.

[–] gaael 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing ! Looks like the usual "small white male feeling powerful because he's the boss" bullshit more than a problem specific to the gaming industry.

Anyway, unionizing should protect them better from these kind of abuse, which is good :)

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Either everyone needs to get royalties or nobody does.

Pay your voice actors right the first time instead of paying them shit per line. Or if your video game becomes an astounding success, all 1,000 people get a slice of that 100,000,000 million it made in sales via residuals. A cool $100,000 for everyone!

Don't forget to advocate for yourself even if you have a union. Nobody ever gets paid more by saying nothing.

[–] lemonadebunny@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or nobody does

Be careful, Disney might like that idea

Great. Their CEO can make $2,000,000 / year and the rest $100,000 capping their maximum pay at 20x their lowest paid employee.

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/

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[–] Kirkkh@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

SAG is going be in for a shock when they realize movie executives are kittens compared to a gaming exec.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how many are actually in union to gain that bargain power?

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know most if not all of the cast of Critical Role (who are voice actors for many video games) are members. Ashley Johnson is the voice of Ellie for TLoU, so if they’re working on TLoU3, they’ll likely have to delay it.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was hoping this extends to many other departments.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn't, unfortunately. Programmers, animators, concept artists, designers, each need to unionize in order to leverage collective action grants at the bargaining table. With last week's decision by the NLRB though, it's certain to be easier than ever to get unionized. Still, the amount of coordination it gets to even petition the NLRB to have your union recognized is no small feat. Just now it'll be that much more difficult to bust a union election

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Wasn't there a threat of a game VA strike a few years ago and it turned out that some of the bigger names like Troy Baker aren't in the Union?0