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[–] fci 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yeah, no. They should leave well enough alone and retire the TNG cast. They did the "All good things..." poker shot, it's time to move on.

That being said, there's lots of untapped potential to revisit characters from DS9 and Voyager... key word is revisit, not brutally murder on screen please. Picard S3 didn't feel the need to kill off one of the TNG cast members for shock or emotional value.

[–] Basilisk@mtgzone.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ro Laren and Elizabeth Shelby have entered the chat.

[–] Commod0re@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

you say that like Trek was never known for killing off side characters lol

[–] gingerrich 3 points 2 years ago

I'm with you on this. We've had the end. Tied up quite nicely and now let's move on to new stories, new crews, new eras.

I'll obviously watch it if it did happen but I would rather it didn't.

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[–] argv_minus_one 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Poor man.

He signed on thinking TNG would bomb (which it almost did), he'd make some quick cash, get out, and go back to doing theater like he really wanted.

Instead, TNG ran for the better part of a decade, it is by far his best-known role, and the show spawned several movies and a whole 'nother TV series focused on his character multiple decades later.

Patrick Stewart's career did not proceed as planned.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He could leave at any moment, even with contracts. Hell "Best of Both Worlds" literally had Patrick Stewart and Jonathan Frakes in the middle of contract negotiations - either one could have walked away at that moment and the story was ready for that. (Picard obviously, would have been consumed, Ryker was offered his own command).

It's a bit condescending to say that we should pity him because of TNG. He's said multiple times that while his initial reaction was what you said, he's enjoyed it from there on.

The vast, vast majority of people don't get jobs and think "Okay here is where my career is going", they are along for the ride. Many, if not most people find that they enjoy other careers more than others and swap, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Don't pity a man because he found something he loved doing and kept doing it, we should celebrate that.

[–] uint8_t 2 points 2 years ago

I think the commenter you're replying to was ironic?

[–] Nmyownworld@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Oh, let's not. I think the PIC season 3 finale is a fine farewell to TNG crew all being together. I'd love to see individual stories about the TNG main cast, post-PIC. Riker and Troi, and Kestra. Geordi La Forge and his never seen wife. Worf being Worf -- pondering, fighting, snoozing after fighting. Data redux. And, I'm always up for more of Picard. So, I'm a "yes!" for seeing more individual stories of TNG main characters. I can do without another "getting the band back together," curtain call for the TNG main cast as a whole.

[–] astroPug@hachyderm.io 3 points 2 years ago

@Nmyownworld @ValueSubtracted

I do think season 3 was a nice farewell, but I would be open to another movie. Who am I kidding, I’d absolutely be there, watching it in one of those theaters with recliner seats. Might even smuggle in a thermos of Earl grey for the occasion.

#starTrek #starTrekMovie #earlGrey

[–] beefcat 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it worked because they had 10 whole episodes to give everyone something to do.

Part of the problem with past Star Trek movies is that it is hard to give the whole ensemble meaningful contributions when you are confined to three acts over two hours.

I want PIC S3 to stand as the TNG finale. If they want to continue with these characters, have some of them show up for an episode or two of the proposed Legacy show. But don't try capturing lightning in a bottle again. It's a miracle that TNG got a second good finale after all these years, don't undercut it by giving us another Nemesis.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or, how about that, maybe consider not doing that.

[–] space 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Picard left the TNG storyline state in such a decent and settled place, feels like another story would only risk ruining things. Feels like the series is already in a good-as-it-gets state and can only go down from here, unless they go for total spin-off.

But I'll still watch it even if it sucks, which the people with $$ in their eyes know so...

[–] kargarocP4@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I don't know if I would. I guess people are curious though?

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I'm very torn on this. Ordinarily, I'm in the camp that more Trek is always a good thing. But then Picard season 3 felt like such a special send-off to the TNG crew - it took them two decades but they finally fixed the mistakes of Nemesis and gave us a sense of closure on the TNG story.

If they made another movie then I would totally watch it, but I can't see how they would give us an ending that's better than what we got, and I fear trying to hit the same nostalgia notes once again would just end up cheapening where Picard left off.

[–] Newby@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me, more content while we can have it is never a bad thing. If we don’t like it we don’t have to rewatch it. But I’d rather risk it for a chance at another great story with characters I love.

But I know I am in the minority. Heck, I even enjoyed Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[–] beefcat 2 points 2 years ago

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull wasn't a bad movie. It was a 7/10 released as a followup to a trilogy of 9 and 10/10 films that came out 20 years earlier. The hype and inevitable comparisons are what killed it.

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gimmie a DS9 movie or GTFO.

[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Ben Sisko on the big screen, hell yeah!

[–] Dee_Imaginarium 2 points 2 years ago

I know there's a lot of people saying no, but I'd be okay with it. I'd also be okay with them leaving it where they did with the Picard finale. However to move forward with the Star Trek universe timeline we're going to need some kind of ending to Jean-luc's character and crew, might as well be in a movie and on the original actors' terms.

[–] SSH_2023@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

There's definately going to be a next next generation series, maybe even new films. But it will be itled something very unoriginal like Star Trek: Legacy or Star Trek: Forever.

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