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### About Community Tracking and helping #redditmigration to Kbin and the Fediverse. Say hello to the decentralized and open future. To see latest reeddit blackout info, see here: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] nonexcludable@feddit.uk 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jesus, this is escalating fast. I never actually thought admins would go to such crazy lengths. Such pathetic desperation!

[–] The_Empty_Tuple@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fully expected Reddit to fight dirty, but it's still surreal watching the iron hand come down against the community. Silver lining, I hope this helps accelerate the migration to the fediverse.

[–] nonexcludable@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember ten years ago sharing beers with admins who visited London. Back when there was a push for developing local communities and Global Reddit Meetup Day. There was good vibes and a feeling of mutual respect.

I met my wife through Reddit.

I still have so much affection for the site in my heart.

It's just wild to me how much has changed.

Really glad I never got that Snoo tattoo now.

[–] The_Empty_Tuple@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit isn't the first online community I watched outgrow itself into the grave. I guess it's just the cycle of social media. Here's hoping this time's different.

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[–] kinyutaka@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The exact reason not to get tattoos of weird corporate shit.

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[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We knew that this was a possibility since day one. The mods took a stand anyways, risking it all for the community. Still a shame to see it happen.

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[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

"The protests didn't do anything"

"Waaah, my ad reveue 😭"

[–] patchw3rk@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Spez: 'Reddit is a democracy!'

Also Spez:

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

iS tHiS hOw I bUilD gOoDwIlL wItH vOlUnTeEr MoDs?

[–] meat_popsicle@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Reddit is taking the mantle of determining valid content and is editing and changing posts for users without their consent, doesn’t that run the risk they fall afoul of the Safe Harbor clause of DMCA?

IMO they’re getting mighty close to editorial control.

[–] Longjonsiiver@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

You are definitely onto something. Section 230 is what keeps Reddit alive, get rid of Section 230 protection of reddit GG.

Best course of action, file a complaint that Reddit Inc. Filed falsified documents with the Supreme Court on January 2023. They should not be able to use section 230 as a form of defense anymore, now that Reddit has constantly removed mods and interfered with subbreddits. FYI I modded the original r/EASportsFC and Reddit admins gifted to it r/fifa been looking into this for awhile, but I also eat crayons and not a laywer.

Filed January 2023 with Supreme Court

Reddit, Inc. is a community of online communities.
Reddit provides a platform for Internet users (called
“Redditors”) to connect with each other in communities (called “subreddits”) that are based on shared interests. 2 Reddit is one of the most popular sites on the Internet, with more than 50 million active users every day. But Reddit’s
approach to content moderation makes it different
from many social media companies. As explained below, Reddit relies on a bottom-up, community-based approach where individual users—not the company—take the lead.

Redditors create and organize their own subreddits devoted to their specific interests. They establish their own rules governing what content is acceptable within their subreddit. And those rules are enforced by users themselves.Redditors also directly control the degree to which user-generated content items like posts, comments, and
media are visible on the platform. The display of content on Reddit is thus primarily driven by humans—not by centralized algorithms.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-902-1996-amendments-18-usc-1001

Tldr - fuck reddit.

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[–] Jcb2016@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

u/spez is a Dictator

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This morning's news about the r/mildlyinteresting team being reinstated and unsuspended by a different admin - that's confirmation that there's internal conflict going on. Protests don't work, my ass.

[–] Liempong_pagong 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or its a good cop bad cop act.

Good sdmin offers suggestions to mod, then mods comply due to gratitude.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

That presumes there was insight and planning, neither of which reddit seems to have.

[–] DBT@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like they did the same with /r/interestingasfuck

RIP Reddit lol

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[–] Thalyssa@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The dumbfuck bootlickers who're "yay my content coming back" are fucking cringe. I hope the new people who mod the subs are alt-right trash who will push their shitty ideology onto the subs.

Good riddance.

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[–] lixus98@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day where Reddit would remove entire mod teams.
I guess they were right when they said:

The r/WatchRedditDie moderator team regrets to inform our community that we have, in fact, watched Reddit die...

Reddit died and we watched it.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

"The beatings will continue until morale improves"

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Outrageous! We should invite the mod team here

[–] adamthinks@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The most mindboggling thing about all of this to me is if Reddit had just improved their own app to be up to par with the multitude of 3rd party apps out there, none of this would have been an issue. They could've migrated everyone over to the official app easily with just a better experience. If a single person can wrangle an app together that outperforms the official one in a month, Reddit has no excuses. Personally, I'm delighted all of this has happened, as it's allowed for multiple viable alternatives to be populated. Which I've been wanting for a very very long time.

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[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Surely they can't survive after this, right? Like, people can't be okay with this.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess they're betting on most casual users to just not notice or care enough

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[–] lwgrs@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!

Please don't do this. I'm a moderator of a sub (won't say which one). From a personal standpoint I'm happy to use both platforms. Vilify me if you will. But I do not want to see messages from users asking if we're going to migrate. That's pestering and it won't go well if that particular subreddit isn't into it.

[–] minnieo@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

How else do you suggest bringing migration to their attention? I am a mod as well, I cannot see how someone politely asking if we are thinking about making a community on a diff platform can be perceived as pestering? It appears this is individual and not every mod will be annoyed and not every mod wont be annoyed.

edit: 10 people suggesting it to mods says "this is in higher demand than we thought, not just one random person's suggestion that we can ignore, we need to consider taking action or addressing this" Which is how changes happen. mods need to listen to their users, thats the responsibility they volunteered to take on. As a commenter said below me: "If you are getting annoyed because so many of your users want to migrate, maybe you should consider migrating instead of demonizing your users?"

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[–] nonexcludable@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

r/TIHI is also unmoderated along with r/mildlyinteresting and r/interestingasfuck. Is that new?

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[–] Noodleneedles 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hilariously, a subreddit that I mod, with less than 700 subscribers and like, 4 slightly active users (3 of whom are mods), just got the threatening modmail. We only went private as a gesture of solidarity, there's maybe one post a week so it's not exactly a bustling community. I'd made the sub public for about an hour every couple of days in an effort to avoid this sort of thing, guess it didn't work.

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[–] Casmael@geddit.social 9 points 1 year ago

Wow this is pretty desperate stuff

[–] Spzi@lemmy.click 8 points 1 year ago

Interesting to see the interplay between power and civil disobedience.

It was naive to expect reddirt to bow down (which is why many thought the protest was pointless), but still the right thing to continue the protests.

What it does is, it forces the power to show face, and it creates a dilemma. Do they

  1. let the protest continue? That's an option, if the protest can be ignored. If the protest is too much of an obstruction, this is not an option.
  2. give in to the demands? Clearly the worst option, else there wouldn't be any protest
  3. use force to remove the protest? A good option if enough people don't care, the best option if people even condone the use of force.

Maybe you already noticed, I'm talking about something else, something bigger.

(1) Is why regular demonstrations (in themselves) have little effect; they can be ignored. They must be a stepping stone to further escalation, else you get statements like "this one will pass as well". The people protesting must be committed and follow through.

(2) Must be won in battle. There will be no gifts. It has to be the least painful option for the authorities, and remember it was their most painful option at the beginning.

(3) Very much depends on solidarity. With which side does civil society solidarize itself? Does it favor the force-applying authorities, because they remove an annoying obstruction to business as usual? Are the protesters the good guys, because they are fighting for a just cause and a better future?

Neutrality on this stance indirectly supports the stronger part, usually the authorities (which are in a position to use force). Using force has no real downsides (oversimplified), unless society heavily condemns it. By 'condemning,' I mean supporting the protests, ideally through participation.

Maybe after experiencing this with your once-favorite social media provider, you can see the next climate protest / civil disobedience with different eyes.

[–] ANuStart@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck that place

[–] Unsayableorc@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just checked on r/interestingasfuck, and it says the subreddit is unmoderated.

Glad I left, only reason I still have my account is I'm waiting on my reddit data request.

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