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Covid, WFH, Musk, The fall of Twitter, Netflix plateau, Reddit Blackout, Crippling interest rates, Trump, Decentralisation, Tech Antitrust, Ukraine

Adding in Edit: AI, Climate Crisis, Nazis, Fascism, Democratic backsliding, automation, mass unemployment, rising homelessness, wild fires

How are you feeling these days?

We sure do live in interesting times

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[–] Nonameuser678 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess we're transitioning from the fuck around to the find out stage

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The annoying thing is that those who fucked around aren’t the ones suffering from finding out. They prospered while the rest of the world suffered from the consequences.

[–] bear_delune 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We gotta start paying more attention to the French way of doing things

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[–] fear@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I humbly protest as someone finding out for someone else's fuck around.

[–] ohokthatsgood 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Panthios@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

(Verse 1)
Covid pandemic, life's tragic,
Work From Home, no more traffic,
Elon Musk in the space race,
Twitter falling from its grace.

Netflix plateau, lost its glow,
Reddit blackout, a serious blow,
Interest rates, an upward hike,
Donald Trump, another strike.

(Chorus)
We didn't start the fire,
It was always burning, since the world's been turning,
We didn't start the fire,
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it.

(Verse 2)
Decentralisation, global reformation,
Tech Antitrust, digital conflagration,
Ukraine crisis, world’s at bay,
In this whirlwind, we lose our way.

Artificial Intelligence, the next experience,
Climate crisis, deadly seriousness,
Nazis, Fascism, old fears return,
Democratic backsliding, when will we learn?

(Chorus)
We didn't start the fire,
It was always burning, since the world's been turning,
We didn't start the fire,
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it.

(Verse 3)
Automation, job annihilation,
Mass unemployment, rising desperation,
Homelessness in the city streets,
Wildfires burning, the heat repeats.

(Chorus)
We didn't start the fire,
It was always burning, since the world's been turning,
We didn't start the fire,
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it.

(Bridge)
From the pandemic to the space frontier,
Through the crises that we all fear,
From the ashes, we'll still rise,
In our hearts, the human spirit never dies.

(Chorus)
We didn't start the fire,
It was always burning, since the world's been turning,
We didn't start the fire,
But when we are gone, will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...

(Outro)
We didn't start the fire,
But we hold the power, in this defining hour,
We can tame this fire,
Though we didn't light it, we have the strength to fight it.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Notice how 90% of that are rich people causing or amplifying those situations to happen?

COVID - Trump sabotage any effort made to prevent the spread and we lost 1 million people due to that.

Climate Crisis - Oil Giants/Automobile industry sabotage the public transportation which would have a long term ramification to reduce oil consumption overall.

Nazis/Fascism - Rich People fund/outright purchase mass media to create chaos in public perspectives and polarize the political parties. Koch Brothers are funding far right politic and pushing hard for nazism. And of course, don't forget about Sinclair broadcast.

Ukraine - Putin and the Oligarch

I could go on. Almost all of the problems begin and end with the rich people. #EatTheRich

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have been trying to mention this trend to people as much as possible when they bring up issue X. A divided populace is easier to control, and here we are with various "culture war" topics constantly on the news, more and more fear mongering etc etc. But for every divisive cultural issue, there's a group of rich people who stand to gain, in one way or another, from the division itself and the fact that it keeps us (the poor-er majority) from solving real problems.

The fact is, if we fix the wealth inequality problem we fix a lot of others, and we would also be able to focus our collective energy appropriately at the others which may not naturally fall away.

That's not to say we shouldn't focus on everything -- but our best bet for a livable future is to start eating the rich now.

Edit: a word

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[–] marin 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s scary how greed has made the world so hostile. It’s hard to stay ignorant about these issues because it’s just one search away on a phone. Yet, people still choose ignorance. I feel a little lost and hopeless sometimes even though I try to do my part. Finding a safe space online seems crucial for my mental wellbeing. Glad I can be here

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[–] bored_pistachio@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Don't blame people for choosing to be ignorat. Empathy fatigue does not make you a bad person. We didn't envolve to process so much shit.
I try to focus on my local irl more. There I have some influence.

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[–] lunarshot 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really does sound like a new version of We Didn’t Start the Fire.

[–] bear_delune 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We didn't start the fires, it was Shell and Exxon, BP and Mobil

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[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be perfectly fair, the world has always been screwed up in a hundred different ways at any given time. It's just more immediately visible to every single person these days

[–] bear_delune 15 points 1 year ago

True, at least now more people are taking notice. But those working against the populous are more brazen than ever too

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[–] Skooshjones@vlemmy.net 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not feeling optimistic, but trying to stay positive and do good in the world regardless.

Remember to use these hard times to focus on the things that really matter. Enjoy nature, have empathy for others, be kind and supportive, stand up for what's right.

We'll all endure, some how some way. Peace and love to y'all.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

History oft repeats itself. By reading a lot about the past, I feel more relaxed about the future.

A book I read recently was a history about a moral panic starting, how people became marginalized, how there were times of extreme terror, how a social movement started, and eventually entered the mainstream. Laws were reversed, the group of people became normal, and became part of greater society.

The goverment had gone from decade+ of progressivism with a opposition party in decline, to the accidental discovery of a powerful social tool to tap into the hate built into humans. They leveraged that tool to bring their party back to relevance in the face of declining power.

It's victories were temporary though, and their very tapping into that hate was what undermined them. The boy that cried wolf couldn't keep crying about it when people realized it was just a ruse.

Almost the exact same things are happening today. A similar moral panic kicked off. Someone is crying wolf and is trying to be the constant victim. Most people will be exposed to the alleged "wolf" (who turns out to be floofy and nice!) And America calms down again for another 20-40 years.

[–] NekoRogue 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds really hopeful. Where and when did the events covered in the book take place? Also, what was the name of the book?

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[–] worfamerryman 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sometimes I feel like things are just moments away from falling apart. I worry that the leaders are doing their best to cover it up, but one day it will fall apart and it will fall apart suddenly.

[–] that_one_guy 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I often think about how, if there was a planet-killer asteroid on a collision course with Earth, it's very likely it would be kept secret. At least if we had no way of stopping it.

I truly believe that if global warming is already past the point of no return, there would be a lot of powerful people out there with vested interests in keeping it under wraps. They'd definitely want to at the very least maintain their lifestyle while the boat sinks...

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[–] rowinofwin 24 points 1 year ago

It think we have cycles because people remember things that happen in their lifetime but fail to adequately instil that knowledge in the next and subsequent generations. The wealth inequality of the 1920s was the catylist for much of the economic turmoil of the great depression and laid some of the context for the New Deal era. The strong rules for antitrust and managing monopolies were put in place to prevent a repeat and while the generations who lived through the great depression were dominant they survived. As those older generations died out and as the following generations grew in influence those protections were weakened and eventually mostly dismantled, resulting in massive changes from the 70s onwards. Those protections were eroded and wealth and income inequality grew until we reached and surpassed the levels of the 1920s.

I think the same happens for other things like the idea that Nazis are bad or must be resisted, or that religious ideologies should ve kept seperate from the government, or healthcare is something we can help each other to gain, or that workers can have power by working together. What I find hopeful is hearing discussion of all of these ideas in fairly accessible places and people do seem to be studying history in order to avoid repeating it.

[–] lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

just try to keep my head down and focus on what I can realistically influence

[–] bear_delune 14 points 1 year ago

It’s the only way to stay sane tbh.

I’ll often do a “digital detox” and remove myself from all events for a while. Unfortunately that’s not a privilege many are afforded

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[–] Tragic@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We didn’t start the fire, it was always burning since the worlds been turning

[–] AndrasKrigare 13 points 1 year ago

🎵Schools close, Tom Hanks, trouble in the big banks,

no vaccine, quarantine, no more toilet paper seen.

Travel ban, Weinstein, panic COVID-19,

NBA, gone away, what else do I have to sayyyyyy🎵

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[–] Riyria 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Honestly, we are potentially on the cusp of the next great societal shift not only in how countries are ran, but probably also where the sphere of global influence resides. I don't know how it will all end it, whether it will end with China superseding the US as a global influencer and power, or if we will go the way the Nazis have been trying to direct us since the 30s and the entire world takes a dramatic shift to the far right.

Quite frankly, it's terrifying. Being in the United States and watching our political climate dissolve into a party who is afraid of embracing the young and go further left, and a party whose only interest is owning the libs and helping the 1% become even wealthier while the rest of us have to suffer through greedflation is really frustrating. My wife and I have talked about leaving, but we have JDs, and American JDs are basically useless outside of the U.S. unless you went to Harvard/Stanford/Yale and can land a job in Big Law, which we did not.

I've thought about going back to school and getting a degree in programming, or trying to find another way to learn and get the experience/certifications I would need, but I have absolutely no idea where to start with that or how to look for those kinds of jobs.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I do not advise going to college for programming degree, it could easily be the worst financial decision especially now that the jobs and pays are not guaranteed anymore, programming positions are getting flooded and wage are tanking. More often than not, college does not teach you standard practices in the industry, the tech stacks that we use, and so forth.

My advice instead is to get some certifications for programming or system administration and save up for like a $7000 classroom course for some of those certifications, it's expensive, but helluva a lot cheaper than college at least. Once you have the certification and some basic understanding, do some projects like:

If you're system admin, try and set up a whole new office network by configuring the routers, firewall, group policies, ADAP, RADIUS, and so go on and so forth. Get comfortable doing it in a virtual setup.

if you're programmer, try and develop some common web applications since that is easily 90% of the job in programming nowaday, it almost always going to be web application everywhere you go.

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[–] Plume 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We could indeed be on the brink of something. The conditions are there but for what? Will we end capitalism, make a new system and try for a better world? Or will we fall into fascism once more?

Even if it's finally the day we move on from this system that keeps threatening to collapse on itself every 6 months... it's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better...

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[–] TerryTPlatypus 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At this point we should have a "We Didn't Start The Fire" parody for all the nonsense that's happend over the last 3 years. Feels loke the Roaring 20s, but just more cbaotic and socially conscious.

All I'm trying to do is just find myself and enjoy life, and I'm a little anxious to see where we end up. Hopefully it's somewhere where we come out better as a society.

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[–] BreadDog@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

To be honest, 2023 has feel relatively calmer than the past few, I guess covid being that all encompassing to life. Of the things on your list I do think AI is probably the first thing that comes to mind when I think of what we are "on the brink of". This leap that happened the past couple years in LLM was shocking enough, wondering what the next couple are going to look like.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Things to add:

  • war on Cash
  • impending CBDCs
  • government banning of decentralized currency
  • possibility of UBI
  • high profit medical care
  • uninsureable assets in places that are fastly becoming at risk.
  • retirement/death of the baby boomers and surplus of assets that no one will be able to afford
  • all rain water on earth is contaminated by dangerous chemicals
  • many consumer products are made with plastic/acrylic that leaks EAs
  • sprinkle in some non human aircraft recoveries as a seasoning
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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The development of AI as well.

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[–] wildeaboutoskar 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This sounds like a new version of We Didn't Start the Fire

[–] geoffervescent 10 points 1 year ago

We didn't change the weather. It was always warming since the wealth's been hoarding.

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[–] Borgzilla@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The cyberpunk stuff I was reading back in the 90s is happening now. We are in cyberpunk.

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[–] eclipxe 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] SubArcticTundra 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Prime examples being the stuff around Brexit or Roe v Wade

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[–] SubArcticTundra 16 points 1 year ago

The wave of populists across the democratic world has lead to more corruption and complacency at the top and more distrust and disconnection with the average voter.

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[–] furrowsofar 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I read a book maybe 20 years ago called the 4th Turning. This kind of feels like it and it is when the book said it was going to be.

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[–] HappyMeatbag 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think the Beehaw mods are on the brink of a nervous breakdown. With the influx of reddit users (like me), running the site must be like working retail on Black Friday - but it’s happening EVERY DAY.

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[–] KiofKi@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

It feels like that time at a party where everything escelates. But not in a good way, more like something resulting in the worst hangover of humanity. Being over 30 I dread this hangover.

[–] teddy@lemmy.cornspace.space 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Canadian wild fires as well.

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[–] Butterbee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have lived through so many "once in a lifetime" category events that I'm just TIRED now. I want to have a nap.

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[–] irongamer 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of opportunities for improvement!

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I try not to get too caught up in world events. Right now I'm trying to make some improvements in my personal life. I got a new job which I haven't started yet, and I want to buy a new car once I get paid.

Global issues are obviously important, but don't neglect your own life and your own community.

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