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Reddit’s CEO said he expects this blowup will pass eventually.
This was precisely the wrong thing for him to say if he wanted that to happen
Seriously. Talk about poking the bear, he got me pissed all over again. Never going back to reddit now.
That's because spazzy spez didn't think his internal memo would leak.
Nah I think it's clear he wanted it to leak. He's just an egomaniac who thinks he's actually a good leader. That section of the memo was for investor confidence. (It'll pass, no revenue effect so far, etc.) The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.
Obvious tactic, paint the other side as violent and you'll get sympathy. Won't someone please think of the corporation.
Make no mistake, spez would love to see someone in a reddit tshirt beat up on the street. He'd be able to plaster that everywhere he could showing how sad his side is
The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.
Glad people aren't blind to this obvious ploy. When LGBT violence is at an all time high I don't think you need to be worried about wearing a reddit shirt.
Apparently the head mod of /r/Tumblr has already been forcibly demodded. A bit weird that Tumblr of all places has been the starting point.
The real question I think is will Reddit retaliate back and forcibly recover communities and install new mods?
Also /r/adviceanimals, we'll see which others
Imagine how differently this would have played out if Reddit CEO Steve Huffman had taken a collaborative approach with app developers and stake holders. A few months ago, he could have called them up and humbly asked them for ideas and assistance in making Reddit profitable. Reddit would be on path to financial success by now.
It's a corporate us vs them mentality. I don't think Steve would even ask his own employees for help - the people who are on the ground running the company. The internal memo strongly indicates that Reddit doesn't have a two-way communication channel with leadership.
It's a shame, because refusing to take feedback is what ends up sinking most companies.
I don't think it's wrong for Spez to charge for API access, but the rates he's vowing to charge are excessive and clearly designed to nuke third-party apps from their ecosystem.
As for how I'd make money from Reddit in his shoes, I'd:
Good. I really hope this causes a snowball effect. After spez (fuck spez) basically told all the moderators "fuck you" today, I'd say there is enough momentum to get at least a good half of the participating subs on board with an indefinite blackout. And with more moderators checking their inboxes and feeds tomorrow, "after the blackout," I anticipate seeing a second wave starting tomorrow and throughout the next week, as these mods return to reddit temporarily to coordinate.
KEEP IT GOING!!!
It was truly unexpected to see how large social networks find new and innovative ways to ride and accelerate their downfall.
From my perspective:
Facebook --> Cambridge Analytica fiasco
Twitter --> Elon was bluffing but Twitters Legal team forced him to proceed otherwise the SEC was already looking for blood and an excuse to make his life very difficult for all his previous shenanigans
Reddit --> already downhill since just before Ellen Pao nonetheless may I speculate that perhaps one or more of the larger shareholders/investors forced the current situation but Huffman underestimated and did not realize that the power users and pro bono moderators were entirely dependent on third-party apps.
Moreover, I exclusively used reddit through old.reddit.com I have no idea how current Reddit actually looks like nor do I care as it was unusable.
Sad to see great things go but life continues onward.
I have no idea how current Reddit actually looks like nor do I care as it was unusable.
Just for fun, I opened reddit in a fresh browser, without my settings and extensions etc. It was... shit. No other way to put it. 1/3 of the screen was used for content, the rest was some form of trying to feed you crypto stuff, advertisement or "hey you should rather watch this video than read text, you loser!".
For now, I can, thanks to some plugins, bring new reddit to something that is close enough to old reddit to be usable. But if this is the way reddit is heading, I'm out, alternative site or not.
Always felt that the way redditors treated Ellen Pao was horrendous. That place is a cesspit
Lemmy is growing but we need to work to make easy to allow reddit mods to setup instances and fund them
I am a Reddit mod. Gimme the step-by-step tutorial! There are certain subs that I want to see reproduced ASAP, like /r/LifeProTips and more!
Reddit declined to comment
I am guessing their comment would be something like, "FUCK!!!!!!"
Hey folks. Looks like I let this one get by so I'll leave it since there's already some discussion happening, but for the next few days please try to keep discussion of the Reddit situation in the megathread.
Stuff’s already starting to go back to public, I expect nothing to change for the better.
And reddit still don't give a shit. Just shows how much they care about the community.
I honestly don't care whether or not reddit (the company) gives a shit. I just want users to realize that reddit deserves to be replaced by something more open and user focused.
While I would expect the larger ones to see admin takeovers, I wonder how easy it will be recruit capable mods to police those large subs...
Oh 100% i see moderation suffering. But reddit will only care about that when it directly affects them financially. Which is to say that there is an amount of abuse and bigotry that reddit is cool with as long as it doesn't bring lawsuits or scare advertisers
Ahead of the Tuesday post, more than 300 subreddits had committed to staying dark indefinitely, SpicyThunder335 said. The list included some hugely popular subreddits, like r/aww (more than 34 million subscribers), r/music (more than 32 million subscribers), and r/videos (more than 26 million subscribers). Even r/nba committed to an indefinite timeframe at arguably the most important time of the NBA season. But SpicyThunder335 invited moderators to share pledges to keep the protests going, and the commitments are rolling in.
A surprising amount of big names there. I figured it would be more obscure/niche subreddits like /r/TaylorSwift, /r/SpaghettiWesterns, or something like that
As much as I do hope this helps, I'm afraid it won't change a thing: Like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well." -Spez. Seem they will ride out this storm. This have to be permanent to make any changes at Reddit.
But not for me. I'm forever gone.
And if there are enough power users (lots of comments, posts) like me who feel the same, it will have an impact.
There's a HUGE middle ground between "nothing changes" and "reddit goes out of business." As we see with Twitter, you can have a zombie platform that persists but slowly loses inertia month after month.
It's not that Reddit dies abruptly. It's that the platform is wounded now and, without attention, will bleed out slowly over many years.
Cool, well the reason I'm here instead of on reddit is because of this. Last time I did this was when I found reddit after digg.
Also there alot of bots going around Reddit saying the protest is not working and all the subreddit mods are going to be easily replaced, with who I don't know.
Well if only bots are talking, mods can be bots too. /r/SubredditSimulator will just take over the whole Reddit
Well, despite the difficulties translating to Federated platforms, I will certainly be working on alternative social platforms.
I no longer use Quora or Facebook...
I unsubscribed my 'YouTube' channels and added them as RSS feeds, so there's no need for me to be signed in there to consume content from creators I follow.
I hope that a month or two with the Fediverse will allow me to understand it better. I'm sure that many Fediverse users will also remain on Reddit and be able to advise folks on what to do.
If anyone on, for example, r/firefox announced activity over here, I'd follow them here. So whatever the 'bots' say, I know what's occurring in my corner.
I suspect we’re about to see a lot of mods lose their permissions. Reddit will allow some protest but not at the expense of investors getting spooked.
Cool that sites are reporting on it. Maybe that’ll add pressure.