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[–] Clbull 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Apparently the head mod of /r/Tumblr has already been forcibly demodded. A bit weird that Tumblr of all places has been the starting point.

[–] Emirose 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The real question I think is will Reddit retaliate back and forcibly recover communities and install new mods?

[–] Mjb@feddit.uk 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Emirose 7 points 1 year ago

It makes sense from their perspective but still kinda shitty.

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[–] AGTMADCAT@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they tried to hire enough mods to do a quality job of it they'd be bankrupt by the end of the year. I don't know if they'll have enough capable volunteers for a significant fraction of the subreddits.

[–] emi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

True, although the way things are going, some instances don't have the mod capacity right now. Lemmy needs more moderators and moderation tools as people move to the service. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

[–] jherazob 23 points 1 year ago

Also /r/adviceanimals, we'll see which others

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any source or details? Would love to read about it.

[–] Clbull 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] halfcalf 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Removed by an admin or another mod? There aren't really enough details in that story to know exactly what happened. It also seems strange that it says the sub went public briefly and then back to private. That doesn't really sound like an admin forcibly stopping the blackout.

I feel like subs being forced public is a real possibility as things continue on, but I'm not sure this is a good example of that.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I predicted this but kind of surprised that it happened so fast. I'm guessing this mod won't allow anything critical of spez.

[–] Mango 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I predicted forcible demods...

But like, I feel like the one thing that would work is the one thing no one has been talking about.

A mod strike!

Maybe it has been suppressed because it would seem too radical but like, if the communities are going to die anyways might as well go out with a bang. Mods should all go on strike and spammers can run free and burn the site to the ground. That's basically what happened with Twitter, right? Has Spez seen what has happened to the valuation of Twitter this past year or what?

I went on Reddit during the blackout and on the front page there were shitty tattoos of bdsm furries with their dick and balls out... If the front page could all turn into that and the enforcement of NSFW tags was lost due to lack of mods, I can't imagine that the shareholders would be happy about what the site has become.

Mod + user direct action - everyone should post spacedicks/porn and mods should refuse to enforce the rules. Reddit wants to destroy the mods? Then reddit should see what a world without mods on the internet actually looks like... Especially before the IPO. Plus, the internet can get VERY active when it comes to participating in mischief instead of watching things slowly fall apart. I'd upvote spacedicks for the cause.

I have no idea why no one is talking about this unless posts/comments like that are being suppressed. Since it seems like most 3rd party apps have the best mod tools and most mods won't keep up their work if they don't have the right tools, the end result will be the same anyways.

Edit: they can't afford to pay people to replace enough mods. Spez deserves a look at what reddit will become BEFORE the IPO in my opinion.

Mods are basically the slave labour that make Reddit profitable and allows for its existence.

The exploit is taking superuser’s hobby or specialty and getting them to work 24/7 in an permanent unpaid internship position that doesn’t run counter to labour laws.

No one wants to upset that tenuous (and likely quasi-illegal) system of exploitation by empowering the mods to know that they can make changes by organising or going on strike.

Neither Reddit executives nor the protesting app developers and other API data users have the actual interests of reddit superusers at heart.

[–] ASCIIansi@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit wants to destroy the mods? Then reddit should see what a world without mods on the internet actually looks like… Especially before the IPO

To be fair... reddit was originally designed to be self-moderated by the users.. and it use to work really well. It would be a miracle if they moved back to that model and I would no doubt switch back to them from lemmy if they did. Those were the hey days of reddit and the internet as a whole.