Free and Open Source Software

It's even funnier/worse then I expected.

Jerboa notices that's a link and makes it click able but clicking it opens my default email client instead of anything lemmy.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1048#issuecomment-1585914314

issue tracker for that here

https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy

issue tracker for supporting reddit apps.

This is not an issue with federation, centralized services like reddit have the exact same problem, it's just a problem with anything that lets anyone build a community, really.

Inconvenient for this one usecase, yes

I make my username communist everywhere to make people question communism.

I did address the politics, lemmy is open sourced and the politics aren't injected in the code, and if you can't deal with the politics, go to kbin. It'll still be federated, so, I don't care really, but I can't imagine leaving lemmy because of what the devs do in their free time.

Privacy is non-existent on reddit anyway, just because lemmy is imperfect there doesn't mean it's any worse than reddit, and this is a public forum, there's no privacy anyway.

I'm mostly confused by a lot of the privacy talk, personally. If you post something on a public forum there practically cannot be a guarantee of deletion.

My concerns with privacy are abusive trackers scraping data like whati I'm personally looking at, how long I look at posts, what times of day and background ad tracking that for far beyond even that.

Sure, people can use the things I've consented to posting online to do market research or whatever. But that's not something that can be practically stopped without end to ende encryption and then that's just... A matrix? To me it feels like a lot of the privacy complaints have revolved around wanting a social media to do something entirely removed from what a public facing social media even is at a core level.

I'm interested to hear peoples thoughts on improving the privacy, but I really do think there is a lot going into this expectation of deletion that isn't very practical when there are way more pressing issues about privacy violations.

edit: an analogy, if I publish a book, and later decide I want to fully retract the book, in within my rights to request that. But there is no practical reason for me to expect everyone to follow through, or that my publisher be required to hunt down every last copy and destroy them. On the other hand, I'm a lot more concerned about someone spying on my every move while I'm writing the book, doing research, and discussing it privately. Lemmy, to my knowledge, doesn't do the latter, but does act as a publisher letting people know they should destroy the book.

The Devs mentioned the privacy issues here

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2977

As for politics, I think that just goes to show have powerful Lemmy is. The code is open source and able to be self hosted outside of the developers control if need be. It truly doesn't matter what the developers or really anyone's persons political beliefs are. If something goes to crap just move to another instance or host your own where you create your own rules.

Here's what was written there:

I think there's a team of people intentionally spreading lemmy misinformation. I think reddit is trying to get people not to switch from this platform

People are saying the same things everywhere, but on any analysis, they don't actually make sense, let me give an example:

Lemmy is absolutely too convoluted for normal people. "There are multiple servers, many of which overlap with each other content-wise? Which one am I supposed to use? This isn't as simple as reddit," says the photographer who posted to /r/earthporn, says the politics junkie who posted in /r/worldnews, says the creative writer who posted to /r/nosleep.

There is no way to prevent this from happening again. It will happen again, no matter what. If Lemmy gets big, it will only do so if a couple servers rise above all others so the normies can understand that those are the servers to join... and those servers eventually will take advantage of their users just as reddit has done."

There's no aspect of truth to this comment, as an example, let's try actually doing what they're saying is too hard:

https://beehaw.org

click "communities"

search "news"

oh, there's the one at the top with the most subscribers

https://beehaw.org/c/news

Done

So, did they just make up that it was too convoluted for normal people? Yes. Is there some truth to the notion that there are multiple communities for the same thing... Also yes, but there are on reddit too, it's no different than r/art and r/art1 r/art2 and the billion other subreddits in a similar position. People just search and then use the largest one... so is it an actual problem, or is it just grasping at straws? You be the judge of that.

Are there things that make lemmy difficult? Yes, but they're rapidly being solved and extremely minimal, other than that issue tracker, the other thing that might stop you is that some lemmy instances require a message and approve signup, this is because they widely aren't monetized and are run by volunteers with no intention of ever monetizing. Neither of these things are real blockers to normal human adoption, and neither of them are long-term fundamental issues.

If you think federation is too complex for normal users, I ask you, why does email face no such difficulty? Why is nobody complaining about how difficult email is because of federation?

The other issue is genuinely a problem, the lemmy developers are tankies... however, lemmy is released under an open source license, none of their ideology is being injected into the code, and this is akin to worrying about the ideology of the developers of email. Use an instance not created by them, and you're safe from this entirely, I recommend https://beehaw.org/

Don't let the misinformation factory stress you, I don't have proof that reddit is doing this on purpose, but this seems to be a common set of lies... and if you don't like lemmy anyway, there's also kbin, which federates with lemmy but is made by completely separate developers.

Federation is NECESSARY for a non-corpo/government propaganda AND control ridden future. If reddit were federated, nobody would give a fuck about this api thing, because we'd just go to another instance, and all of our content would still be available on that other instance. That's why reddit fears federation, none of the issues with lemmy are fundamental, let's build a better future, one where we don't have to hope a benevolent centralized monopoly/dictatorship on a community will work for us!

And lemmy is the only way to save these precious reddit apps: https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy

Here's what was written there:

I think there's a team of people intentionally spreading lemmy misinformation. I think reddit is trying to get people not to switch from this platform

People are saying the same things everywhere, but on any analysis, they don't actually make sense, let me give an example:

Lemmy is absolutely too convoluted for normal people. "There are multiple servers, many of which overlap with each other content-wise? Which one am I supposed to use? This isn't as simple as reddit," says the photographer who posted to /r/earthporn, says the politics junkie who posted in /r/worldnews, says the creative writer who posted to /r/nosleep.

There is no way to prevent this from happening again. It will happen again, no matter what. If Lemmy gets big, it will only do so if a couple servers rise above all others so the normies can understand that those are the servers to join... and those servers eventually will take advantage of their users just as reddit has done."

There's no aspect of truth to this comment, as an example, let's try actually doing what they're saying is too hard:

https://beehaw.org

click "communities"

search "news"

oh, there's the one at the top with the most subscribers

https://beehaw.org/c/news

Done

So, did they just make up that it was too convoluted for normal people? Yes. Is there some truth to the notion that there are multiple communities for the same thing... Also yes, but there are on reddit too, it's no different than r/art and r/art1 r/art2 and the billion other subreddits in a similar position. People just search and then use the largest one... so is it an actual problem, or is it just grasping at straws? You be the judge of that.

Are there things that make lemmy difficult? Yes, but they're rapidly being solved and extremely minimal, other than that issue tracker, the other thing that might stop you is that some lemmy instances require a message and approve signup, this is because they widely aren't monetized and are run by volunteers with no intention of ever monetizing. Neither of these things are real blockers to normal human adoption, and neither of them are long-term fundamental issues.

If you think federation is too complex for normal users, I ask you, why does email face no such difficulty? Why is nobody complaining about how difficult email is because of federation?

The other issue is genuinely a problem, the lemmy developers are tankies... however, lemmy is released under an open source license, none of their ideology is being injected into the code, and this is akin to worrying about the ideology of the developers of email. Use an instance not created by them, and you're safe from this entirely, I recommend https://beehaw.org/

Don't let the misinformation factory stress you, I don't have proof that reddit is doing this on purpose, but this seems to be a common set of lies... and if you don't like lemmy anyway, there's also kbin, which federates with lemmy but is made by completely separate developers.

Federation is NECESSARY for a non-corpo/government propaganda AND control ridden future. If reddit were federated, nobody would give a fuck about this api thing, because we'd just go to another instance, and all of our content would still be available on that other instance. That's why reddit fears federation, none of the issues with lemmy are fundamental, let's build a better future, one where we don't have to hope a benevolent centralized monopoly/dictatorship on a community will work for us!

And lemmy is the only way to save these precious reddit apps: https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy