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[–] melp 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think it's probably something we in the US should also do.

I was thinking that as well.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 days ago

The German agency for civil protection [badly translated] has recommended having a stockpile of supplies that lasts for 3 days, preferrably 7–10 days, for ages. We Germans collectively ignore that.

PDF, German: https://www.bbk.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Mediathek/Publikationen/Buergerinformationen/Ratgeber/ratgeber-notfallvorsorge.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

More is better. Dry pasta and white rice store very well for carbs and don't take up a ton of space.

[–] Powderhorn 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have a 14-day supply of freeze-dried food under my bed. In an emergency, finding sufficient water to reconstitute it would be the main concern.

But three days? Like, what is that accomplishing? I decided to go off grid after the 2021 ice/snow storm wherein the Texas grid nearly collapsed. Some in Austin retained power the whole time (helps to live near a hospital), while load shedding forced the rest of us to go without power for a week.

We didn't get anywhere near to above freezing for days (highs around 18F/-8C). I survived by boiling ice and snow on my gas stove that I had to light with a match at that point. I was able to maintain indoor temps above 40F/4C that way and had sufficient blankets to survive, but this is not a standard threshold.

One starts to rethink reliance on the grid at that point.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Three days is the (generously calculated) time until civil defence will have soup kitchens up and running, and at least over here they stock three months worth of lentil stew, pea stew, and bread and more than enough diesel to keep logistics, kitchens and crucial infrastructure such as water pumps running. Heating, push come to shove, would be supplied at the gymnasium of your local school or suchlike. Recommendation is to have 7-10 days worth of stock.

But yes I'd recommend against (completely) relying on stocks that need preparation because electricity and water might fail. Canned soups and stews are good and don't forget canned peaches or such so you can have dessert. Woodgas burners are cheap camping supplies and you're bound to be able to find some sticks somewhere so with some water reserve you even can have your morning coffee.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Three days is the (generously calculated) time until civil defence will have soup kitchens up and running

Wonder if that's still true with the budget cuts to FEMA here in the US.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was in Houston for hurricane Ike. We had trees down all around making the roads impassible for a few days, so having a few days of food was enough for us to get them cut and moved enough to go anywhere. 3 days is also enough to get food/water distributions or drops set up. It's basically enough to get out of needed or to get by until distribution logistics are in place. If bombings start, your stash could go up in smoke so 3 days or 30 wouldn't really matter as much as a go-bag with more compressed calorie bars or something.

Ah, and yes to not relying on the grid. Now, I have a battery backup that can run my well pump or keep the fridges going and recharges with solar. We have a cannister gas stove and a charcoal grill. I have a kerosene stove and several litres of fuel around for the colder months as well, but I think some of that is hard for those in small apartments and the like.

[–] Powderhorn 1 points 4 days ago

I've been on solar since 2023. My heater is Diesel powered, and I have a store of that, but below freezing, despite my insulation, I flee to other situations. Thankfully, a friend was willing to let me crash on the air mattress in his garage for this year's Arctic blast. Never thought I'd see that as an upgrade, but I was able to place the space heater so that it was blowing at the bed.

Even with 600Ah of LFP, running an 1800W resistive heater is not a solution. It was nice not to have to worry about freezing to death.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

The problem is water. It takes up a lot of space and potentially goes bad within a week.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago

Funny thing. This used to be the main reason for government - to stockpile foods in case of times of famine. Literally. Before the Code of Hammurabi; before government stepped in and took responsibility for dispensing justice (as opposed to taking matters into your own hands, and starting feuds, which is how things used to run); the whole purpose for government was hoarding food. Well, and wars. But also food.

I just think it's funny that every government on the planet has abdicated that responsibility, one of the two fundamental origins of the institution.

[–] Powderhorn 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most wars last three days or less, after all.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

Yes, that was Russia's plan on Ukraine. So, likely the same going forwards.