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This is America. This is the foundation that holds up the Trump government and the Republican Party. (lemmy.ca)
submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca
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This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It's an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won't go, and no decisions from Trump that won't be retroactively justified.

These people are dangerous, and they don't give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.

Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn't get any better as you go deeper. What's clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is actually classic fascist playbook:

  • We are the strongest
  • But also - o no - we are under attack from all sides, everyone is against us
[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I hope they skip ahead to the last chapter, the kys-in-a-bunker section specifically.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

If they're gonna play follow the leader they should play it right.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago

r/Conservative are like the lambs from Animal Farm.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 2 days ago

Canada. If you want to invade and only fight the Republicans of America. I’d literally do nothing to stop y’all. Have at it rabid viper chickens.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 67 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you have unchecked disinformation.

Let's prevent that from happening by not spreading American owned media pretending to be Canadian, that infiltrates Canadian culture and politics.

[–] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Ahahaha Canada.com? How much more blatant can it be that the site is American?

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s not America that’s r/conservative

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 4 days ago

So what the people in charge of America are telling the fascists to think.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

1.1k effective downvotes in r/Conservative, that’s amazing even for explicit libtard comments. If that sub isn’t swallowing your Drumpf Deitification, you’re really and utterly stone bonkers.

[–] BreadlineVIP@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

I came to the comment section to see if anyone had noticed! I mean -1k is extremely telling and I’m honestly surprised they don’t all ride the canada-is-full-of-drugs train

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

That subreddit is nothing more than an echo chamber. If you express an even slightly reasonable view, you get banned.

The only way for dissenting opinions to be expressed is with the downvote button, and even then most reasonable people avoid going there because it's so frustrating to read.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Yeah, a trade war with Canada is easy to win for the US

A trade war with Canada and Mexico is a bit tougher, the two biggest trading partners, pretty much

Mexico, Canada and China is tough

Mexico l, China, Canada, and the EU? You're fucked US

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that we no longer agree on what reality is with Trump sycophants. For them lies are truth, night is day, less then 1% of fentanyl is a national emergency, etc even when presented with facts and objectivity. It’s legit terrifying and I don’t know how to fix it. I don’t know how our politicans are able to deal with people they can’t share reality with. Canada’s going to bear the brunt of US delusion and unreality.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I found this video interesting, about Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity and how it relates to Arendt's investigation into what made Nazis do what they did. In brief, he characterises stupidity as not just ignorance, but ignorance that resists and is opposed to learning, and he said this stupidity could be a more damaging force than evil.

https://youtu.be/53ZaXpIn2fg

[–] Aconite@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

The U.S. is Bizarro World.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

That sub reddit is also just a pool of self dock sucking. They have to make it so only their members can post because other people come in with things like facts and reason and just demolish them.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They all look like bot accounts with AI generated content.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

Would it surprise anyone if it was a Russian run subreddit. Heard moderation is heavy handed to quickly snuff out dissent with people having their conservative flairs taken away if they dare question dear leader who drinks the sun and eats the sky.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its funny seeing this stuff in r/conservative getting down voted as hell.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

r/republican is no better. They literally spout the lies trump spews and believe them 100%

[–] IslandLife@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago

Lol, I've literally never seen that many downvotes. What a toxic sub though.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Made in St. Petersburg™️. And American ‘conservatives’ just lapping it up

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[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

James O'Brien isn't my favourite talking head, but I do like his idea of having contempt for the conmen and compassion for the conned. These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I agree that someone conned deserves compassion. You got tricked into sending someone money? Im sorry, even if it was dumb of you, im angry at the scammer.

But when you get scammed and the person who scammed you says theyre using your money for atrocious hateful acts, say making someones existence illegal, and you double down and say "well actually theyre right let me send more money, " you do not have any sympathy from me.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You're 100% entitled (and right) to feel that way. But there are a lot of lies these people have been fed, often from birth, about for example white supremacy etc. that only education can really erase. Education is withheld by the same liars that profit from the hatred they whip up.
Now I'm not advocating for the softly, softly approach with them, I'm all for punching Nazis, and it's ultimately up to the individual what to believe. But these drones aren't the right target, it's the monsters that made them that way and hide behind them, the people in power advocating for e.g. religion and ethnonationalism to increase their power and profits. They are the root cause. And their first victims are these ignorant sheep forming a human shield around them. If I were to explain how much contempt I have for those people this would be a massive text wall that probably breaks Lemmy TOS.

[–] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nono, let these morons suffer their consequences. I hope they don't mind learning Russian because they're going to need it to communicate with their new masters.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

The con they got suckered into is American Exceptionalism, and it's not Trumppy that suckered them. He's a victim of the same brainrot.

These guys are reveling in it, and I have no sympathy for those that choose "we're just better than everyone else" as part of their core identity.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

If they were truely conned sure. But most of these guys just thought the pain would be placed on others, not them. They're fine woth others suffering, but the tears start to flow when they experience anything negative at all.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

These people are adults and are responsible for their beliefs and actions.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

100%
The difference is I would leave the door open for them to come back to reason, maybe even give them the benefit of the doubt. But the people purposely manipulating then are, I think, beyond forgiveness.

[–] CorvusNyx 1 points 3 days ago

To some degree, sure. But these are adults with the capability and responsibility to think for themselves. It’s one thing to punch down on someone repeatedly for a mistake or being fooled, and yes, the majority of the fault lies with the deceiver, but these people aren’t stupid either. Trump and the rest of the Republican ilk made it clear what they’re about, and their actions speak louder than their rhetoric. If folks are foolish enough to believe him over and over again, the problem is just as much them as it is him.

[–] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

I'm confused. The screenshot you shared just has two idiots sharing stupid opinions and 1.1 thousand/389 people (likely from the same subreddit) disagreeing with them.

I'm not saying the conservative subreddit isn't unhinged, but this feels pretty cherry picked.

Maybe share a photo of the most upvoted comments for a better reference?

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago

Sometimes, I wish I didn't have eyes... This is one of those times.

Jesus fucking christ. Like, if I typed that shit, I'd hope someone would put me in a fucking psych ward, stat. People need some fucking help.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

I'm closer on the Mexican side of the country, but I'm gonna really miss having friendly neighbors. Sorry we've been so shitty lately to our northern and southern friends.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Doubling down on tribalism won't save us from their ignorance. The degradation of a unified society by means of Us vs. Them thinking is how we got here in the first place and how things continue to get worse.

There are those at the fringes of that style of thinking that can be reached by those of us who are adjacent to them (via family, mutual friends, workplaces, etc.). Those folks at the fringes can reach those adjacent to them. We'll never get 100% of them on side but we can at least weaken the well-funded machine that continues to keep them uninformed by relating to people as human beings instead of stoking division like oligarchs intend for us to do.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Only thing I said that I think might be worth downvoting is "unified society," which might have unintentionally implied society was once completely unified. It felt so obvious I couldn't possibly mean that, it didn't even occur to me to be more precise there. In hindsight though, what I should have stressed is that we've been getting less unified than ever. We're losing the ability to see the humanity in one another, and have been for a long time.

Folks who sow division want to make it about culture or politics, but it was always about class or more fundamentally, power. The more willing we are to play the hierarchy game, the more power goes to the ones on top.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Personally, I automatically hate anyone that describes themselves as conservative, but you have to know that r/Conservative is not a very good representation of the entire group. It's EXTREME and one of the most blatant echo chambers I've ever witnessed; any dissent will earn you a ban from that sub.

[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago

The only 1% these guys can be in is 1% posters on the conservative subreddit.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All of these comments are severely downvoted. What are you every saying here? That one incredibly unpopular opinion represents them all?

Don't get me wrong, fuck them all. But this is such a stupid argument for your hate.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

I don't need r/Conservative as an argument for my hate. Listen to Rogan, or read any one of the dozens of other threads at that sub. Or even look a bit deeper in that post.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Eww, that's some level10 spinjutsu.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 4 days ago

Time to print a bunch of 'i did that' stickers with Trump's face and put them on US gas pumps.

[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago

So wrong yet so smug

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Screenshot?

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Added one. Couldn't see how to add more. I can appreciate that no one wants to give them traffic. It doesn't really matter because commenting there is highly restricted even if you have a reddit account in good standing. And the entire subreddit is incredibly fragile - you'll get permabanned for putting up anything that counters the tsunami of horseshit.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Couldn't see how to add more

To link multiple images, you can either

  • link to an external gallery in the main post

  • place them in the post body with this format: ![](ImageLink)

You can do the same in comments. For example if I go

![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Birds_Illustrated_Canada_Goose.jpg/636px-Birds_Illustrated_Canada_Goose.jpg)

It shows up like this

It's also best practice to add alt text in the square brackets:

![painting of a goose standing in front of some boats](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Birds_Illustrated_Canada_Goose.jpg/636px-Birds_Illustrated_Canada_Goose.jpg)

Some apps and front ends will have a little image icon that can help you upload more images into the post / comment body

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Appreciate it. Nice to see the downvotes.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Elbows up

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