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While I do not think that Aliens was a bad film at all, I kinda wish it wasn't a sequel to Alien. It's a completely different film, far more action-oriented
Then again my view is probably significantly coloured by the fact that I enjoyed the first one a lot more
That's one of the reasons it's so good. Alien is perfect space horror. Aliens doesn't try to match it but tells a different kind of story with some of the same characters.
Which (IMHO) is the reason it works so well. The first movie can't be topped because we've seen the Alien and the tension can't be repeated (see: the later movies which try this same formula and fail). Aliens takes that and ramps it up in a different way to make the desperation of escaping with firepower on your side still nerve wracking!
The 3rd installment also takes a new twist and different approach but doesn't succeed as well (I still found it enjoyable, and rewatch from time to time.
Everything since then has been a cash grab of hot garbage.
The same could be said about terminator 2
I'm not sure about that, actually. There's a similar power dynamic involved β Arnie's terminator is unstoppable compared to Kyle Reese, but then the T-1000 is unstoppable compared to Arnie. Worse, it can now be anyone in almost any scene
Terminator 3, on the other hand...
It's a completely different film, far more action-oriented
Terminator 2 is tonally almost completely different from 1. 1's soul is much more a horror movie, complete with a damsel in distress and a heavily uncanny villain. 2 had every chance to lean into that sense of unease, but really doesn't explore that uncomfortable emotion despite the T-1000 being much more threatening on paper.
You don't have the fear of the Alien and the tension from Ripley without the first movie.. in my view, but yes it is a totally didn't feeling movie otherwise.
The correct answer. The perfect duology.
The Dark Knight
Empire Strikes Back.
And if you're into "it's so bad it wraps around and becomes hilarious" films, Troll 2.
People who grew up with the original will probably flay me for this.
Bladerunner 2049 was a better movie than Bladerunner. It took everything that was great about the original and improved upon it.
The original is a masterpiece. That said, I loved the sequel and have rewatched it multiple times. However, I donβt know if it is because I love the film or just anything Ryan Gosling is in π€€π
Drive?
Didnβt catch that one. Any good?
Certainly my favourite Gosling film. It's one of those movies with a lot of ambiance; if you watch it, don't doomscroll at the same time.
The elevator scene is so beautiful.
Oh wow! Iβll have to give it a go then. βΊοΈ
if you watch it, donβt doomscroll at the same time.
It's sad that you actually felt the need to tell people this in a movies community. What a time we live in.
The first movie I saw with Gosling was Lars and the Real Girl. I didn't get his appeal then, but I do now. I should watch that movie again because as weird as that movie is, I think his performance is stellar.
I agree wholly. Heβs just so handsome and talented to boot.
Knife Guysβ’ is so freaking funny too.
It is great.
I guess I will need to rewatch 2049 again (I've only seen it once, in the cinema at release). I've watched the original quite a few times since though and I'm increasingly of the opinion that it's quite overrated and gets heavily carried by the visuals and the soundtrack, so I could see a case being made for the sequel being better.
Shrek 2
Paddington 2
Godfather 2
I donβt think thereβs a better movie sequel than Terminator 2. Itβs the reason why itβs still an ongoing franchise today.
Would people still watch the first Terminator if it wasnβt for Terminator 2?
The first one is still a great movie. It's biggest hindrance is the low quality stop frame animation when Arnold is just the skeleton. I wish they would re-release it with the fan made improvements to the stop motion that have been done.
I like Terminator 1 a lot more than T2.
It's much more grim-dark with horror elements. I would even go as far as saying there are subtle cyberpunk motifs in T1. There is also a modicum of character development. Michael Biehn (Kyle Reese) does a great job.
T2 feels more like a teen's summer action movie in comparison. It lacks that edge and is overly sentimental.
I will note that growing up I liked T2 a lot more than T1.
Bending the rules a bit here. I know it is not a true sequel, but it's part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead. Also, except for the second film, I think the Mission Impossible series just gets better with every entry.
For a while, Mission Impossible kept getting better, but Dead Reckoning was absolute dog water and it killed all my interest in the franchise forever.
I know it is not a true sequel, but itβs part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree here.
Short Circuit 2
Number 5 is ALIVE!
Los locos kick your ass.
Los locos kick your face.
Los locos kick your balls INTO OUTER SPACE!
Godfather II. The first is honestly kind of hokey and people are really stupid when they are trying to be clever. GF II has higher levels of tension and the execution of everything is smarter. And Robert DeNiro just slays playing young Marlon Brando.
Dune, Part Two
Mad max 1 was a revenge cop story nobody watched outside Australia
Mad max 2 was the apocalyptic Mad max everybody know
I wouldn't say they are better, per se, but these are some sequels I think are on the same level, when compared to the original film in the series:
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Austin Powers 2
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Die Hard With a Vengeance
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Operation Condor 2
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Back to the Future Part 3
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Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome
This one right here, officer.
I was going to say terminator3 but then I realized you were serious.
I'll have to say Escape from L.A. It is not usually mentioned and I think it is better than the first part
Hate on Michael Bay and his Transformers movies all you want, but there is only one movie with more robots that turn into more things than cars, more explosions, more ridiculous destruction, more awesomeness, more movie than 2007βs Transformers, and that movie is Transformers: Age of Extinction.
A giant robot that turns into a semi-truck painted with red flames, wielding a sword while riding on the back of another giant robot that turns into a flame-breathing T-rex robot. Itβs unparalleled in the stupid dumb action movie genre.
I saw another comment that spurred my thinking. There are (how many?) sequels in the Terminator series that have only been increasingly worse all because Terminator 2 was so good.
The same goes for Star Wars. Empire Strikes Back is a damn good movie by any measure. Iβm confident none of the Star Wars movies since have managed to even come close, and Iβd even say the only ones really worth watching are the first, the second, and the immediate prequel (Rogue One)
I qualify a good sequel as a movie that can be enjoyed without having to watch the previous. Not that the previous isn't important, just not required.
Terminator 2 clearly fits into this category. As do a lot of sequels. Here is my short list:
- Terminator 2
- The Dark Knight
- Finding Dory
- Toy Story 2
- Spider Man 2 (Toby Maguire)
Do Casino Royal or Rogue One count for anyone?
Toy Story 2? My other answer would be Godfather part II, but it's been so long since I saw it that I don't know if I agree with that commonly-held opinion.
Leprechaun 4?
Hot shots! Part deux.
The Two Towers?
This is 40 as sequel to knocked up.
I really wish they had made a 23 jump street. 22 jumpstreet wasn't as big of a jump in awesomeness like T1 vs T2, but it was still an even funner movie than 21 and I'm sad they didn't milk the franchise for one more film. Especially with all those baller ideas they had at the end of 22. Lol