Fun fact:
The dairy was fined in 2023 for a Salmonella outbreak and is very militantly anti-government.
The why seems pretty clear.
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Fun fact:
The dairy was fined in 2023 for a Salmonella outbreak and is very militantly anti-government.
The why seems pretty clear.
Louis Pasteur is rolling in his grave...
He is boiling in his grave. Probably milk.
Wonder if they tried heating the milk up to 63 degrees C for 30 mins before consumption?
Maybe that would help.
Am i seeing this right, that you can buy raw milk in grocery stores? What the fuck?
Raw milk gets bad way to fast in order to sell it in a grocery store.
Imagine deliberately paying a premium for food that can make you seriously ill.
I believe it has to be bought at the farm but they still do commercial packaging
That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought, that so many people buy raw milk, that its profitable to do commercial packaging.
Doesn't it last 5-7 days? In Europe it is long enough.
All i can say is, that at "normal" refrigirator temperatures milk will be good for 3-4 days. Cant say anything for temperatures below that
Looked at milk I have.
Expiration period: 6 days.
Storage temperature (4±2) °C
Did you mean 3-4 days since purchase? Here it's counted from production date.
I mean 3-4 days since production. In this case it might be higher, since Theres no exposure to the surrounding air.
Damn.
I didn't have "Raw Milk encouraged by the US govt. causes second pandemic in 5 years" on my bingo card for 2025.
I'm not ready for Moovid...
I like to moovid, moovid.
Or cowvid for that matter
I vote Cowvid, but I'm concerned about it being confused with videos of cows.
Better that than confused people watching videos of Joe Rogan or Trump or something, maybe there's a natural deterrant against disinformation in the name by just getting people to watch cows all day long. Then again I'm sure people would start taking cow dewormer eventually.
It’s so bizarre to see this discussion play out on the basis of “health”
Because there is a legitimate discussion to be had about the economics of how milk pasteurization requirements have affected local dairy farms. How the unsanitary conditions of industrial scale milk production have made it a necessity. How marketing and corporate interests have shifted consumption patterns.
And yet these fucking dipshits have turned this in to “pasteurized milk personally harms you!” In grifter circles.
How screwed are we that we can’t talk about the complexities of how corporate farming practices have effected our food supplies with out couching it in terms of “health food”.
I cannot express how much I hate the term “health food”. There is no such fucking thing as a “health food”.
It makes me want to rip my hair out when these topics come up.
This problem has always bugged me writ large as well. It seems nearly impossible to have any conversation that looks at the bigger picture of things in a complete and nuanced way.
Take for example employment rates. It’s just taken as a given that high employment is the goal. But stop and think about that for a second. In any other part of your life is your goal to completely saturate all time with labor? No, obviously not.
But the goals are set and we must achieve them. More money next quarter than last quarter, it doesn’t matter if every conceivable customer already has a subscription, we must grow. Make the product cheaper to make, charge more, do anything but consider that we might have picked stupid goals.
I've seen some shit claiming pasteurization is harmful and I just have to ask if the people who believe that know what pasteurization even is, because how the hell does boiling it make it harmful? Shit... If boiling milk makes it toxic, you better stay away from cheese. And a lot of baked goods. Creamy soups. Pasta dishes. Etc.
Not even fully boiling. To quote Wikipedia, because I'm lazy:
The liquid moves in a controlled, continuous flow while subjected to temperatures of 71.5 °C (160 °F) to 74 °C (165 °F), for about 15 to 30 seconds, followed by rapid cooling to between 4 °C (39.2 °F) and 5.5 °C (42 °F).
Literally 30 seconds of "pretty hot". And people are risking serious illness, even death, over some mythical beliefs about how nutrition works.
This is the whole “gluten is poison” (for people not actually intolerant to gluten) all over again. Those people also had no idea that it was just wheat protein.
Of course it was from Fresno, lol
isn't that the place with the freaky haunted pants?
lol, yup.
Heyo, that’s where I live 😅
The more deadly pseudoscience that spreads the fewer conservatives there are in America, so I can't say I mind stuff like this too much.
I mind it. In isolation it would be fine, but with their ignorance, these types punish and harm their families, mainly their children, who would otherwise just grow up to cut contact with them anyway, long as they didn't end up sharing their views. Plus when it's disease, they just have to walk near a person who isn't another conservative to spread it. As we learned from covid, the best person to be wearing the mask is the sick one, and they don't play along.
And they will blame it on someone else causing them to become sick like 5G or wifi
Surely this is satire. One of you guys made this as a joke, right? Right?!?
Louis Pasteur is rolling in his grave, watching them raw milk drinkers.
You say that, but far as I know, Pasteur died and the raw milkies are still alive!!1!
Food safety is communism!
I grew up on a dairy farm and we drank raw milk every day. I can remember my sisters bringing the milk pitcher to the barn and dipping into the bulk tank of raw milk every morning or so. No one got sick and no one died. We even made butter at home from it after separating the cream. But pasteurization is a good thing for all you urbane urbanites out there. It increases the shelf life and safety for consumption. Plus it reduces number of small dairies near population centers that used to exist. Dairies can be 100+ miles away now. After all, you wouldn't want to be exposed to the smell of cow shit right?
Raw milk does taste very different from store bought pasteurized milk, (whole milk ain't whole). And like shelf stable milk, I doubt anyone of you would like drinking it.
When I was a kid, we went to our neighbor who was a small milk farmer and got raw milk basically every day. Never got sick or anything.
Can confirm that raw milk does taste different, and to be honest sometimes I miss the taste when I drink pasteurized milk now
While I certainly don't miss milking cows, I too miss the insanely rich texture and flavor of that fresh from the cow milk.
Warm, fresh from the cow, before the cream rose.
at least CVD isn't contagious
Every new infection is a new dice roll for a human-human infection mutation
Low chance, but let's hope we don't get XCOM'd
Cardiovascular disease is never going to be contagious, except through socially transmitted values that say it is okay to commit atrocity against cattle.
Ah, sorry. Was still at the bird flu from op
*yet
Tbf, raw milk is delicious.
Lol, that's actually not fair.
brain parasites: yes... YEEEESS..
Might get some hate here for this, but I’ve tried this company’s cheese. It’s the best cheddar cheese I’ve ever tasted.