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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 minutes ago

Good luck with that.

Most computer nayetems will trim the crap out of that name, the white spaces like space, tab, \r and \n will be gone by the time it's in the database

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 minutes ago

A line break is a non-printable character. So it would only work in the scope of electronic storage. The minute it hits other media, the line break character is subject to how that media handles its presence, and then it is lost permanently from that step forward.

Plus, many input forms make use of validation that will just trim anything that isn’t a character or number, removing the line break character.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If elected president my first order of business will be to make all birth certificates fully unicode compatible.

[–] agilob@programming.dev 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How is your son X Æ A-12?

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago

"It sounds like a password"

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Probably have to escape it so it will work properly: John\/nDoe

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

\n already is an escape sequence, consisting of \, the escape character, and n, the code that is responsible for the new line. Together they form an escape sequence.

[–] Bldck 3 points 2 hours ago

This person unicodes

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I have an apostrophe and it's super annoying as some companies see it as a SQL injection hack and sanitize it.

So I've received ID with Mc%20dole or they add a space in it. Or I'll get a work email with an apostrophe but I cant use it anywhere because sites have it disabled. And I've missed my flight because I changed my ticket once to add the apostrophe and the system just broke at the gate.

Worse yet many flight companies have "you will not be able to board if your ID doesn't exactly reflect your details" but their form doesn't allow it. Even most forms for card payments don't allow it even though it's the name on my card.

[–] agilob@programming.dev 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

I have an apostrophe and it’s super annoying as some companies see it as a SQL injection hack and sanitize it.

My surname contains a character that's only present in the Polish alphabet. Writing my full name as is broke lots of systems, encoding, printed paperwork and even British naturalisation application on Home Office website. My surname was part of my username back at uni, and everytime I tried to login on Windows, it would crash underlying LDAP server, logging everyone in the classroom out and forcing ICT to restart the server.

[–] AdNecrias@lemmy.pt 23 points 5 hours ago

%20 is encoded space if I remember right, so even then they were already incorrect

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

... why are you putting an apostrophe in McDole? The O-apostrophe in Irish names is an anglicisation of Ó, eg. Ó Briain becomes O'Brien. Mac Dól would become MacDole/McDole.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago

Mc'Dole is what they said, not McDo'le.

[–] hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml 37 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah fuck this guy for spelling his name the way it was given to him what an asshole

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Hey Militant Left, just because every question directed at you assumes you are an asshole, doesn't mean the same applies to questions to other people

[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 8 points 5 hours ago

Probably some bureaucrat decades ago making an incorrect assumption that passed down through generations. Happened to my family. No Irish roots whatsoever, yet somehow we ended up with the annoying form-breaking apostrophe in our 'legal' name just because it begins with the letter 'o'.

"Oscar??? Surely, you're mistaken. I hereby decree your name to be O'Scar!" ~Arsehole circa 1937

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I really can't even begin to properly explain this because it's just so many layers of intuition. No, you absolutely cannot have a line break in your name. That's not a letter. That said, I'm fully prepared for someone to give me an example of some writing system that uses line breaks for unique purposes apart from spaces.

[–] Bldck 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Chaotic neutral response: A line break is just white space.

Most languages use white spaces

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 hour ago

its not just a white space. Sometimes it entails a white space, when theres still space on that line. Sometimes it does not.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 35 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

There are a frightening number of systems that don't allow "-", which isn't even an edge case. A lot of people - mostly women - hyphenate their last names on marriage, rather than throw their old name away. My wife did. She legally changed her name when she came of age, and when we met and married years later she said, "I paid for money for my name; I'm not letting it go." (Note: I wasn't pressuring her to take my name.) So she hyphenated it, and has come to regret the decision. She says she should have switched, or not, but the hyphen causes problems everywhere. It's not a legal character in a lot of systems, including some government systems.

[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It boggles my mind how so many websites and platforms incorrectly say my e-mail address is 'invalid' because it has an apostrophe in it.

No. It is NOT invalid. I have been receiving e-mails for years. You just have a shitty developer.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

worst thing is, the regex to check email has been available for decades and it's fine with apostrophies

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well, and remember: If in doubt, send them an e-mail. You probably want to do that anyways to ensure they have access to that mailbox.

You can try to use a regex as a basic sanity check, so they've not accidentally typed a completely different info into there, but the e-mail standard allows so many wild mail addresses, that your basic sanity check might as well be whether they've typed an @ into there.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The regexes are written to comply with RFC 5332 and 6854

They are well defined and you can absolutely definitively check whether an address is allowable or not.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5322

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 27 minutes ago

Yeah, I'm just saying that the benefit of using such a regex isn't massive (unless you're building a service which can't send a mail).

a@b is a syntactically correct e-mail address. Most combinations of letters, an @-symbol and more letters will be syntactically correct, which is what most typos will look like. The regex will only catch fringe cases, such as a user accidentally hitting the spacebar.

And then, personally, I don't feel like it's worth pulling in one of those massive regexes (+ possibly a regex library) for most use-cases.

[–] zagaberoo 3 points 4 hours ago

Ugh and that happens a lot if your email domain has an even slightly unusual TLD too.

[–] troybot@midwest.social 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

And you'd think a simple solution is just leave out the hyphen when you put you name in, but that can also lead to problems when the system is looking for a 100% perfect match.

And good luck if they need to scan the barcode on your ID.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Then the first part is interpreted (in the US, anyway) as a middle name, not as part of the last name. I did run into a recently married woman who did that: dropped her middle name, moved her last to the middle, and used her spouse's last name.

More commonly, places that don't take hyphens tend to just run the two names together: Axel-Smith becomes AxelSmith.

Programmers can be really dumb.

[–] Malgas 3 points 3 hours ago

My mom didn't hyphenate, but she does include her maiden name when writing her full name, after her middle name. It never even occurred to me that that's uncommon.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

As someone who's mexican I encounter that more than one would think since I have 2 last names and it gets weird sometimes since I also have a middle name.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 71 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

asking questions like this is how i found out that one of the allowed characters in names in my country is ÿ, which is fine in Latin-1 but in 7-bit ASCII is DEL.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 hours ago

that's amazing! Aren't codecs fun

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Am I allowed to include sql command words such as drop table in my child's name?

[–] drew_belloc@programming.dev 63 points 9 hours ago

That's easy, just call it Jhon\nDoe

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 42 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

What's the answer? I need the link

Edit: I found it

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'd rather include a bell character '\a'

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 5 hours ago

Bing Crosby

[–] TGhost@lemm.ee 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

NaN,
Not a Number, and now Not a Name

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 9 hours ago

This sounds like the start of another sovcit "loophole"