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Why have we spent the past 45 years – which is longer than I’ve been alive – making seven different versions of the same film?
If you watch Alien, Aliens and Alien3 and come out with the idea that they are “different versions of the same film”, maybe the whole movie critic gig thing isn’t for you. Hell, they are not even the same genre.
Kinda surprised the author could tell the difference between Alien, Predator, and Aliens v Predator at this point.
Alien and aliens are 2 very different take on the same ide (opinions differ on Alien 3), that is not the reviewer claim.
Their point is that Romulus is a useless remake of a much better original.
Alien and aliens are 2 very different take on the same ide
So are Ghostbusters and the Others.
What is your fucking point?
My comment was truncated, but your rudeness convinced me to stop interacting with you.
Imagine that! We both win!
Facehuggers are Disney princesses
I thought the first action set piece with the facehuggers in Romulus was the films highlight. The corridor section, not so much.
I mean yes, totally. I haven’t seen it, yet, but will likely be going to the cinema for this one.
But, to just throw an idea out there … covers of and homages to songs are normal and sometimes awesome in music, and fundamental in live music.
So maybe the same isn’t so bad in film, especially if they’re not done badly, as it seems to be here.
Maybe “the problem” is more the lack of properly original works, the copious unashamed cinematic universe slop and faithless reboots?
In the same way that Bond films and Disney films find ways to manifest and apply to each new generation or era, why not other classic forms?
But, to just throw an idea out there … covers of and homages to songs are normal and sometimes awesome in music, and fundamental in live music.
So maybe the same isn’t so bad in film, especially if they’re not done badly, as it seems to be here.
The film does a lot of things I liked but those call-outs are often so clunky it spoiled what could have been one of the great Alien films (it's still better than most).
I haven't watched the new film yet, but saying that 7 remakes of the first movie have been made is total bullshit.
meh, I enjoyed it.
"Covenant" and "Prometheus" would've been killer movies to kick off a new IP.
I might be the old man shouting at clouds, but I've been turned off to all franchise "reboots". Just sick of rehashes and revisits and the cute little "winks" these movies do to the previous installments. Have an original thought, damn.
Hollywood has retold so many stories they're running out of things to come up with. Hence all the reboots and remakes :(
What about please stop making BAD Alien movies?
They should make alien movies but not Alien movies. Try something new, leave Alien alone, they fuck it up everytime!
This article would maybe have a point if they hadn't finally released a good Alien movie for the first time in like 30 or 40 years.
bro just stop watching alien movies it's that simple
Nothing wrong with watching it. Just don't PAY for it.
Capitalism: No
Also capitalism: We’re threatening a lawsuit for even saying that because we can, and you can’t afford the legal fees
Nonono.
I like alien movies.
Moar please. Just not sucky ones.
I love Alien. I want more. Give me more!
reason is that historically and statisticwise, sequels make more money then original movies. so there you have it.
I just want another Aliens vs Predator video game. Those 3-way multiplayer matches were so fun.
And Avatar, we don't need anymore thank you.
I've got bad news for you.
I wouldn't mind another show following Korra's replacement
saw it, and I went put with the idea that it was an Alien movie whose target audience was young people that didn’t see the first alien movie.
I still prefer the original first alien movie. Like a lot, but this one is pretty decent. It was like a “netflix remake” with lots of copy/paste from the original movie. Some sentences are exactly copied, some scenes greatly copied and modernized for 2024 eyes.
The main differences that make the first Alien movie superior (to me at least). In this latest movie there is no “mother sound” in the original Alien the spaceship appear to breathe and live with a constant sound that really put you into the “Alien mood”.
Sigourney Weaver. Both her role and her acting were incredible. That is just decent in this new movie.
Critic about megacorps is visible in this new movie, but felt even more terrible in the older one IMHO.
Still, there are a few things not present in the original movie in this one that are a bit nice. The relation with the androids, some great action scenes. But that’s about it. If you love the alien universe it is a pretty decent Alien. If the first Alien is a 9/10 movie I would give this one a 7/10.
I'm always down for more android drama so that's worth two points itself.
I also love Weyland-Yutani's single minded obsession with "the perfect organism" biting them in the ass again and again when they're already making a superior version of humanity that can colonize space.
What's even the profit to be had in turning humanity into xenomorphs or whatever bullshit they're on? It's the fatal flaw of corporate bureacracy we're seeing in real time as our current mega-corps set piles of money on fire on the regular, they're not even fucking good at capitalism, just at beating down workers who don't have an alternative.
I always thought their goal was to weaponize the xenomorphs?
But I suppose it's not meant to be clear. They're greedy corporations looking to milk as much profit from anything they can find. Good thing corporations aren't like that in real life ;P
I think that's what Ashe and Burke talked about/implied so most people just rolled with it, it's not like MIC corruption is a rare theme, but they've been working up the human/xenomorph hybrid angle for a while.
https://screenrant.com/alien-weyland-yutani-xenomorph-goal-hybrid-species-marvel/
And it does tie a lot of threads together while being honestly a bit more horrifying imo. There's always been a bit of a background to the movies of "How could Weyland-Yutani be so stupid as to risk a xenomorph outbreak on Earth or a colony" and even "but Marines with guns absolutely slaughtered them so it's not even that good of a weapon" that this motivation addresses far more readily.
Romulus would be better without the callbacks to the first two films. One character in particular I wish was someone else entirely. Also, I didn't like the ending as it tied into Prometheus/Covenant, my least favourite of the Alien franchise.
I feel Alien has gone the way of Star Wars which keeps linking to the Skywalker's. Let Alien break free of the Ripley verse (She's even in Romulus as a well hidden Easter Egg!) and do something different. The comics have had excellent stories over the years, adapt one of those.
One of my favourites is Aliens: Labyrinth which is about a crazy scientist on a deep space station who has successfully got the alien species under control. His backstory is quite something and you know it will go wrong in the end.
Where's Ripley? I don't remember seeing her.
Its Very well hidden.
Eh, that's fine. It's honestly even better, Weyland-Yutani is so hard for xenomorphs it was honestly kind of weird they didn't track her (and the alien) down sooner in the first place. Now we have an answer, they did.
Lmao I just posted about alien in the moviesandtv shows comm
Alien 3 it's the last enjoyable part of this saga, even resurrection if you're bored, nothing later should ever be done.
I was entertained. Nothing Else Matters. Movie critics have the dumbest stuck up takes sometimes.
Money
There are movies that are too successful for their own good. Then someone buys ip rights and milks the cow.
Like latest planet of apes movie. It’s so unnecessary. There’s a yellow sign “cash grab” in every scene
The problem is, Alien: Romulus was pretty good. It gives the original a run for its money in my opinion.