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“I think the existing, altruistic, free version of Reddit will continue to exist and grow and thrive just the way it has,” Huffman said. “But now we will unlock the door for new use cases, new types of subreddits that can be built that may have exclusive content or private areas, things of that nature.”

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[–] chloyster 71 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Lol I was just about to post this. Yeah this is a decision for sure. Wouldn't be surprised if this causes another big spike in Lemmy usage

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 months ago

May it be so.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Probably not. People will hang onto stuff because "everybody's there" and "but lemmy doesn't have enough content" 🤷‍♂

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

I think it could be the "digg v4" of reddit. People want to use the most popular free platform. If faced with a paywall on reddit, they'll just go somewhere else. Most likely people will go over to Threads, but maybe some will find Lemmy.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget "it's too complicated"

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Selecting a server is too complicated". Won't ever understand that.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But what if I pick the server with all the furries? 🧐

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

We can file that under: expanding worldviews.

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[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Well probably the average Joe may not even know what a server is, not even being able to chose a server which is the best suited for him.

[–] thingsiplay 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Spikes are not that interesting. In fact, hey can harm more than be useful (server problems during peak, maybe for days, sudden cost increase for maintainer) if its not an organic and slow increase. The longterm conversion rate is much more important.

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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Unlock the door" is a really strange way to say "lock the door." What a dolt.

[–] Midnitte 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Sounds like a way for them to tap into the OnlyFans market...

[–] MostlyBlindGamer@rblind.com 13 points 3 months ago

Sure, but also the broader “join my Patreon to get access to my Discord server” market. It’s actually a pretty clever move, if there’s a market for it (there is) and if it replaces more insidious revenue streams (it won’t).

[–] GammaGames 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was exactly what he was referring to.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 months ago

We need to shore up all the porn instances for the coming wave of users - it only makes sense that’s what they’d wall off.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

I can’t think of any audience that would be worse to interact with for Only Fans type content than redditors.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's the Conservative/Elon Musk version: censorship and lies are "Freedom of Speech", falsehoods are truth, everything is projection, etc.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

hahahaha....altruistic....hahahahahahahaha.....grow....hahahahahahaha

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Altruistic. ALTRUISTIC.

Usually 1984 comparisons are whack, but this is some "Ministry of Love/Peace/Truth" shit where you coat all the terrible things you do with a glurgy layer of ultra-positivity.

[–] Penguincoder 10 points 3 months ago

He has no idea what that word means. The word he is looking for rhymes with needy.

[–] CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I remember a quote from spez a while ago where he basically said reddit isn't profitable, so we're not going to stop until it becomes profitable. Apparently that translates to "our platform isn't profitable, so we're not going to stop fucking it up until it becomes irrelevant."

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

I like how companies not being profitable never stops people there from paying themselves millions of dollars.

[–] anothermember@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Reddit would surely have to ban users from creating new subreddits for certain (previously allowed) topics, or else users would just create an alternative "free" subreddit and everyone would post there, right? This can't work like something like YouTube Premium originals or else they're going to have to pay certain popular people to post to the paywalled subs - but nobody uses Reddit to follow individuals.

[–] taanegl 4 points 3 months ago

"You're not fooling anyone, r/TigTooty - banned."

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So basically Reddit wants to be OnlyFans?

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 3 months ago

Slowly running the site right into the ground. This shit ain't gonna work.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago

Oh, no! Anyway....

[–] ulkesh 17 points 3 months ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago
[–] Megaman_EXE 15 points 3 months ago

Dude, what a bummer. Like, I'm glad we have lemmy but there's certain subs and such that reddit had that aren't available here.

On one hand it has completely cured my reddit addiction, which is awesome. I've put a lot of time into more productive endeavors. But on the other hand, I do miss finding niche subs that had amazing communities.

Aaron Swartz wouldn't have wanted this

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good good! Let the exodus to Lemmy begin!

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 11 points 3 months ago

Give me your trolls, your shitposters, your politically challenged yearning to breathe hate. The wretched refuse of society's most failed. Send these, the angry and brain-tossed to me, I open the ports on the router to Lemmy!

[–] DanFucks@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 3 months ago

The language sorta implies existing subreddits won’t be paywalled, but I really don’t believe it. Reddit has no problem taking shit away from its community

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I imagine they'd be eyeing things like having a partnership with patreon so patrons get access to an exclusive subreddit at a certain tier (with reddit getting some cut). Not saying patreon specifically would go for that but I imagine that type of monetization is what they'd be mostly considering. Or maybe a better example would be something in the realm of substack. Paying directly for access is hard to get people to go for without a third party with financial incentive to drive content.

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

What an absolute disaster, you gotta love it

[–] Midnitte 8 points 3 months ago

Enshitification marches on - why anyone chooses to stay on sites like Reddit or Twitter (and its Twitter until they stop referring to themselves as Twitter in their emails), I don't understand.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago
[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 7 points 3 months ago

If they're already giving exclusive access to Google for search and AI training, my bet is it's all in a bid for 'please buy us daddy Google', and let them handle it from there.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 3 months ago

Geez, and I thought they reached peak idiocy.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anybody got that Steve Huffman pig boy meme handy?

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[–] Nath@aussie.zone 7 points 3 months ago

What would be the point? Reddit doesn't make any content. They're just a platform. If they go ahead and paywall subs, those subs are going to have a tiny potential subscriber base. Therefore, they will be less attractive to post to (smaller audience, fewer upvotes etc).

About the only place I can maybe see it working is AskHistorians. And you pay the Historians to answer the questions. Which would of course reduce the amount Reddit takes from the paywall. Doesn't seem worth it, to me.

Even then, I think the Historians would rather reply in a new free sub with wider readership than take $20 for putting in three hours of work responding to something. They do it because they're passionate. Not for money.

[–] 0xtero 5 points 3 months ago

It's spez so of course they're going to go for NSFW subs. Pretty sure that'll just cause people to move to Onlyfans and other, already NSFW platforms.

Can't really see anyone paying for sub access apart from porn.

[–] Vigilantfox85 5 points 3 months ago

This sounds like testing the waters, then dipping their toes, then doing a little splashing. Then jumping right in to completely subscription based.

Maybe paywalled subreddits are more intended to become competitors to maybe patreon and only fans rather than present day subreddits? Like a lot of patreons have discord access as a perk, the paywalled subreddit could potentially fill that role instead. Don't think it seems like a good idea and don't think it'll become more than a gimic

[–] theangriestbird 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i mean if they don't paywall existing subs, and just make it an option for future subs...I could see a world where people use that for like their Patreon or something, like with invite-only Discords. But then, in my mind, that's people paying Patreon to get access to an exclusive Reddit, and that wouldn't bring Reddit new money, so maybe this isn't working the way i'm thinking...

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