Even cars are getting enshitified.
this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2024
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Whether it be electronics, automobiles or medical equipment, the manufacturers should not be able to horde “oem” parts, render your stuff useless if you repair it with aftermarket parts, or hide schematics of their products.
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They were one of the first to go.
Tractors first, John Deere enshitified them and car companies took note!
Obligatory 'Fuck John Deere".
Deere makes good equipment but you won't find one piece of it on my farm. Fuck em
depending on where the owner lives/resides they might be able to take this to court now for vendor lock-in/right to repair violations
Some argued that the new requirements were to protect cars from theft.
Car thieves: Oh noeeees… anyway 🤷
Can you not press both buttons?
I used to have a Prius C, got it used.
95% of shops wouldn't touch it for anything non cosmetic. Hybrid, confusing, scary!
Learned how to work on it myself, before it got stolen.
Guess I just got the beta version of not being able to have your car serviced, due to good old fashioned blue collar laziness and incompetence.
It's not laziness or incompetence. It's risk vs reward. It's not worth spending extra time and money to be able to work on a car you might see once a year. Send it to the dealer and work on one of the other 20 cars waiting in your parking lot. If you owned a Ferrari, would you take it to one of the the shops around town? No, you wouldn't, and they wouldn't touch it either.
Now that hybrids have been out for a minute, more shops will work on them. My shop now does but we didn't until recently, because we see one or two per month now.
The auto industry is full of POS bullies. Everytime one for them goes into another industry they are totally turds and mess everything up then leave cause no one likes them and they pissed off vendors.
I heard that called seagull management. Swoop in, make a lot of noise, shit everywhere, then leave.
Using that at work. Very accurate.
I mean every other company is doing this shit why should car companies not be allowed?
Car company’s have been doing it for decades. There are legitimate reasoning; theft relevant parts for instance; you don’t want to enable vehicle theft and the “security through obscurity” model did work for a long time. Unfortunately for the manufacturers, most factory security systems are being cracked by locksmiths and vehicle rebirthers.
Another reason is for warranty claims. The manufacturer builds the cars to be the right balance of price, reliability, efficiency and performance. If you modify your vehicles ECU software, the engine may not be as reliable or efficient. If an “unauthorised repairer” changed the programming of the ECU, it can compromise the efficiency and reliability of the vehicle.
There are been plenty of accusations of “planned obsolescence” because a vehicle has died just out of the warranty period, after someone has fucked with the vehicle tuning.
Finally, the other reason, especially for Volume Manufacturers is that their vehicles are sold as a Loss Leader so they can make up the shortfall through aftersales. Some vehicle importers make deals with governments to lower tariffs on new vehicles, but increase tariffs on genuine parts, like what the Japanese industry and the Australian Government made in the 1980s.
Whether you agree with this logic is irrelevant; this is the reasoning manufacturers use for restricting aftermarket parts and labour.
When a “free-market” Aftermarket Aftersales industry causes the Genuine Aftersales industry to fail, Manufacturers will try to make up any losses through other channels, like requesting government subsidies “for the good of the local industry” or selling telematics data (which just “happens” to have personal user data) to data brokers.
"Whether you agree with this logic is irrelevant; this is the reasoning manufacturers use for restricting aftermarket parts and labour."
Isn't this this the point of this community? To say we don't agree with this reasoning, whether locking people out of repairs is a good business model or not, it's one that some people don't agree with.
That is the point of this community, you are correct, but unless the Manufacturers can come up with viable alternatives, it isn’t going to change.
Are there any proactive suggestions on how Manufacturers can accommodate third party repairers without compromising the security of their customers vehicles?
I’m pretty sure that no one wants a repeat of the US Kia and Hyundai fiasco of last year?
This is an escalation the others haven't taken yet, but I'm sure they'll soon follow if they're allowed. But all prevention of repair should be illegal, not just this company.