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If you don't use Bing with Edge, Microsoft will tell you your computer needs repairing.

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/windows-operating-systems/microsoft-now-says-your-pc-is-in-need-of-repair-if-youre-not-using-bing-with-edge

They are not wrong.

To mend your machine:

  1. Ditch Windows
  2. Install Plasma
  3. Your computer is ready.

https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/

@kde@lemmy.kde.social

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[–] enigma@norden.social 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@kde@floss.social
I remember decades ago when a US court convicted Microsoft to seperate their browser from windows. The court wrote the verdict that Microsoft ilegally tried to prevent competion . Since Microsoft lost it shouldn't be difficult to file the next suit .
@kde@lemmy.kde.social

[–] Bro666@social.tchncs.de 39 points 6 months ago

@enigma @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

During the Clinton era Microsoft was a hair's breadth away from being broken apart for all its anti-competitive monopolistic shenanigans -- including the browser war thing that you mention.

But then Bush Junior got into power (I resist using the words "was elected") and he swept all that away.

[–] johnlogic@sfba.social 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@enigma @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

As I recall:
Microsoft Windows used to have good online help, circa 1991-1994 (Windows 3.1).
It was based on the Rich Text Format (RTF).
Then Microsoft added a web browser, and called it Internet Explorer.
Internet Explorer really wasn't very good for exploring the internet, apparently because its development had been rushed and it didn't display some things like other browsers would.
Then Microsoft argued in court that its web browser was an integral part of Windows, which Windows could not work without.
Then the judge removed the web browser from his own Windows-based computer and experienced no problems.
Then Microsoft changed its online help to HTML and made us use its web browser to access it.

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[–] kde@floss.social 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@kde@lemmy.kde.social

Apple had to learn the hard way: Under the DMA (thanks @EUCommission !) they were forced to give users a choice regarding the default search engine and browser on their systems.

What are we going to do about Microsoft misleading users?

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_1689

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

Is the browser selection on Windows no longer required in EU?

[–] dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social 11 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Well, I ditched Windows many, many, many years ago, but Plasma still doesn't make any sense to me, so I use XFCE. But thank you for Plasma!

[–] woltiv@mastodon.social 9 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I've been using Plasma 6 as my daily driver for three weeks now, and it's really good! I'm grateful for all the time that developers, testers, and doc writers have spent on this project. I decided to ditch Windows after getting yet another nudge to "please create a microsoft account".

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is actually pretty frustrating

I don't even use Edge and I'm upset

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah it's a shitty thing for them to do

[–] heind@mastodon.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
I love KDE so much. If I didn't rely on certain creative software for work, I'd ditch macOS in an instant.
And I think that's one of the reasons people just aren't able to switch over from Windows.

But hey, every other computer in the house that isn't a Mac runs Fedora KDE. 😃

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I feel the same about KDE and Windows. I only keep Windows for some music production stuff and legacy .NET application maintenance. The rest of the time I avoid it and use Linux and KDE, a far more pleasant experience.

[–] inaction_figure@fosstodon.org 6 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I have fixed three laptops this way. Can confirm. 👍

[–] baggins 6 points 6 months ago

So repair it.

With Linux!

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Alright but what does that have to do with an image of the reddit servers?

[–] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 4 points 6 months ago

I assume because they run on windows.

[–] byteduck@fosstodon.org 5 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I hope this can get out there, 'cause I feel like on here, you're pretty much preaching to the choir. :)

[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago
  1. "Repair" computer.
  2. Use MS Edge for the first time.
  3. Use bing.com for the first time.
  4. Search for "best Linux distro for gaming".
  5. Ditch Windows.
[–] vosje62@mastodon.nl 5 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social on my latest laptop I didn't even activate Windows. I just plugged in a USB stick with a KDE distro.
Who needs Windows?

@kde@lemmy.kde.social

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 months ago

The next step will be for Windows to tell you that you are broken if you chose another browser.

[–] ThatGuyMatus@fosstodon.org 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I am already running KDE on my desktop and GNOME on my laptop with Fedora. Maybe when I will have time, I will package KDE for #MatuushOS.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.

All it says is that the default settings are changed, and they recommend resetting to their service. Because of course a company is going to recommend their own services. Would be a bad company if they didn't.

This is the actual picture they used in the article:

[–] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It doesn’t say anything about repairing, this is such a low class clickbait.

It is literally under the "Repair tips" tab.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago

Useful red circle

[–] dodgy_bagel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I can see windows internet related services being tested with edge.

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[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 6 months ago

If you look at the screenshot, you can see this is the "Repair tips" tab/button. I don't know what it looks like, but it does say something about repairing.

[–] aral@mastodon.ar.al 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Guess what, Firefox does the same thing (a refresh will reset your privacy settings and your default browser, all of which affect Mozilla’s revenue streams) but they’re a tad sneakier/cleverer(?) about it.

(Firefox is not private by default so getting you to reset your settings is how they try to influence you to return to their preferred configuration.)

#firefox #mozilla #deceptiveDesign

[–] Aaron@troet.cafe 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Wait, but isn't the whole point of a refresh to reset everything?

I agree though, out of the box Firefox has become pretty bloated.

[–] aral@mastodon.ar.al 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@Aaron @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Yes, to non-private defaults. Let’s put it this way: if Firefox’s defaults respected your privacy, Mozilla would go bankrupt tomorrow.

[–] dajix@social.zym.lol 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I wouldn't call that one deceptive design tbh, it says what it is doing on the box, resetting the browser to its default state. That includes search engines and privacy settings. Resetting settings to defaults is a completely normal feature that many apps have, and can be useful for fixing issues.

[–] aral@mastodon.ar.al 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@dajix @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social It’s deceptive. They know exactly what they’re doing. That’s why they also ask if you haven’t used your browser for a while.

[–] dajix@social.zym.lol 4 points 6 months ago

@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social I still dont consider this deceptive design. A prompt to reset is perfectly normal in programming, and it would be weird if they did not reset privacy settings with that. Resetting settings is resetting ALL settings. In fact, since resetting is often used for fixing issues you are having in your browser, resetting security settings is a good thing, since some of them can break sites.

[–] Bro666@social.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@aral @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

Here, you dropped this...

Because, guess what? Plasma does not force you to use Firefox either.

[–] aral@mastodon.ar.al 2 points 6 months ago

@Bro666 @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Which would make perfect sense if I had said “Plasma forces you to use Firefox.” Would you like any other straw men to rile against?

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you aren't using Bing on Edge, then I'm sorry to say you are streets behind my friend.

[–] Ozymandias1688@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago

Coined and minted!

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Plasma!

Message courtesy of the XFCE gang

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[–] Sir_Osis_of_Liver@beige.party 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

I use DDG on Edge, and haven't seen this.

I've got Mint on an old laptop. It seemed to require the least amount of fuckery to get working. No idea what Plasma is.

I just want an OS and browser, not a project.

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You literally typed this in a KDE community, how do you fail to know what Plasma is?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Browsing All does that.

[–] Sir_Osis_of_Liver@beige.party 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@PureTryOut

It showed up on my feed. I see similar advice posts regularly "Just ditch windows and..."

Aside from my work tools not working on Linux natively, there are usually a few other steps involved in making the transition. Most people don't want to fuck around with that sort of thing.

I played around with Ubuntu back in the early 00s, before reverting back to Windows.

I looked into what was the easiest current distro to install in order to revive an old laptop. The consensus seemed to be Mint. It works fine and the old hardware was all recognized and so on. I'm still primarily a Windows user, even with all the the BS that goes along with it.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Using Linux is hardly a project anymore, unless you want it to be one. Plasma is just an interface, you can get many distros with it if you want including Fedora, Debian, OpenSUSE, Kubuntu, Arch, and so on.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

So, criminal fraud.

[–] decapitae@mastodon.social 2 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Do not fear the learning curve, for it is shallower now than a year ago.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

Fedora Kinoite, get a Breeze of the future!

[–] tekKUh@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 2 months ago

Never did i think id see KDE Propaganda

[–] mittorn@masturbated.one 1 points 6 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
3. Install msedge for linux and open Bing

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