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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are many issues with this analogy. For starters, the person can choose to date nobody and they aren’t stuck with any guy. “Nobody” is actually a choice. They can also look elsewhere - they have countless immediate, viable options.

If I choose not to vote, I still get Trump or Biden.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Wow. What a stupid thing to say out loud.

Voting is a chess move, not a fucking love letter.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hate to break it to you, but your chess games have led you to the precipice of fascism and climate apocalypse. But keep playing, I'm sure the next game will reverse all that.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

LOL, tell me you don't understand how U.S. elections work without telling me you don't understand how U.S. elections work.

What a paint-chip eating moronic take.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago

Dude comes so close, but then blames dem voters instead of the politicians or political system that represents capital ahead of people.

It'd be one thing if Biden was listening to the base, but he does all this in spite of the dems, not because of them.

Despite what the republicans say, Biden is not swayed by money (hence why Obama had to pay for his son's medical procedures) or what anyone tells him, he always does what he knows is right. Unfortunately he has the kind of moral compass that tells you to oppose desegregation and write 100:1 laws.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So your imaginary scum, being scum, somehow means that Biden having never remotely done anything like your imaginary scum, is the same as Fat Joffrey who behaves daily like your imaginary scum?? I don't think this is the "both sides" you're looking to employ.

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OK, but you do see where it's insane to state that Trump is worse as a response to issues people take with Biden no?

[–] Empathy 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Because it implies that you cannot desire for Biden to do better without "supporting Trump" its a terrible argument and its just factually wrong.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 12 points 10 months ago

It is so funny watching Americans contort themselves as if the elections aren't a sham. They act as if they are voting on board members for the banks, you know the people with power lol.

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

As others have said, the analogy is wrong, but for different reasons than what I've seen.

A better analogy is an abusive relationship. There's your partner who beats you regularly. You're often left bruised. You talk about leaving and the response is 'the other guy will break your arms, and unless you agree to stay with me, they're moving in and they will break your arms. I'm still punching you, and there's no chance I'll stop, but I'm better than that person.'

There is a cycle of abuse. Look it up. There's no way to make an abusive relationship better. There's very little chance that a person will change while they have power over a victim. Power gives up nothing without a fight.

The abuser might change, but only after reflection and a loss of power.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No matter what choice you make, fascism still wins. That’s just the American way. You can have covert fascism, or overt fascism.

The illusion of choice, the lie of hope

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 10 months ago

yeah let’s not use domestic abuse as leverage to support partisan politics garbage, from any side

disrespectful as fuck