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[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 54 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am - in the UK - and I think that it should be opt out rather than opt in.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 14 points 8 months ago

It is, they changed it a while back.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd go so far as to say there should be no choice available to opt out

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago

I think the vast majority of people who, even if they have some discomfort around the idea, would not care enough to opt out. The only effect of not allowing opt out, I think, would be to cause considerable distress to those who do care a lot about not donating. I don't agree with their stance but I don't think they should be forced to donate, especially if we can get enough organs just from making it opt out instead of opt in

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Just so everyone knows, you can't really transplant dead organs (at least not as safely or with the success of live organs).

They can only use your organs if you die in a hospital setting. They will keep pumping blood to your organs after you die to keep them "fresh" and "alive."

Post-death organ transfer exists but is way more risky than an organ that was recently in a living, functioning body.

So if you've ever considered it, keep in mind that you have to die at a hospital for it to happen, and even then, they're still technically forcing your body to be alive to keep these organs alive.

Source: Friend who lost his leg to amputation during a COVID-coma. They didn't think he would make it. He woke up in the donor ward. EDIT: Just to be clear, this happened during peak COVID before the vaccines when bodies were just piling up everywhere. I don't think a coma patient waking up in the donor ward is a normal thing, I think it happened because COVID was a fucked up situation and people were overwhelmed.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What does it even look like when you wake up in a donor ward? Was he a write-off and the doctors were just like 'oh shit, he's awake'? Do non-donors simply get disposed of instead of being brought there?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

He's older and it's been tough to get explicit details from him, but yeah it sounds like because it was during COVID and beds for bodies were so scarce, on top of the fact that they didn't have high hopes for him surviving (so many people his age with COVID just never made it), that they were keeping in there for simplicity's sake. Anyway, it spurred me to begin looking into organ donation actually functions, and I mean, it makes sense, I just hadn't really thought about it before that you technically have to have your body being kept alive to be able to donate the organs. A rotting organ probably isn't very useful. That's why it usually happens with terminal patients where the outcome is 100% they are gonna die. During COVID, with bodies piling up, and lack of open beds in hospitals, it at least makes sense to me that he would have ended up there, in case he didn't wake up. It was pandemonium, at the time. Sadly, it seems to have kind of messed with his head to wake up in that situation, he's a lot less trustful of doctors now.

[–] MSugarhill@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

If I'd walk up from coma with one leg less, I might lose my trust in doctors too...

[–] hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Judging by this comment thread I'm not the only one who's like "you can have them, but I don't know if you're going to want them"

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thankfully it's opt-out in Slovakia, so yes.

I'll be dead. Do whatever with my body. Take the organs, fuck it, feed it to animals, compost it, use it as shooting target, turn me into soap, I won't care. I literally won't be able to care. Why even decline?

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago
  • of course.
  • i'll be dead and won't need them while others might. how selfish of me not to give them over
[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been registered for a while now. I really don't see a good reason not to, they only take 'em if I'm dead and what good are they to me then? Better going to someone in need.

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[–] EveningPancakes@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes I am registered, because I ride motorcycles and I won't need my organs if I'm dead.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Throwing this post out there for a bit of visibility and discussion.

For me, I just registered 5 minutes ago. Idgaf what they use my body for, as long as someone learns something it's a net positive at no expense to me.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago

Twin.

I wish I could properly state the right of first sale he has, given it's his DNA (well, he has mine, anyway).

Fun fact: organs donated between perfect twins have no short- or long-term rejection issues. So unlike a regular donation that prolongs life for a decade or two, if he can drug me and steal my kidneys in sleazy Mexican motel, it's a permanent fix.

Hell, when I go, maybe he'll take a spare kidney or pancreas or something, and just, you know, hook them up. Totally fine with me.

[–] xilliah 12 points 8 months ago

I'm set to donate my body to science. Maybe I even get to be a skeleton in a class room or sum πŸ’€

[–] jlow 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Up until now here in Germany we had a "system" that was a paper(!) card you put in your wallet if you were ok with donating your organs. That's obvioisly not an ideal system and Germany has far to few donors. We now moved to an online system and being Germany it's (as far as I've heard, I haven't tried it yet - which might be a sign that this is not going to be a great solution) is super complicated and convoluted. So basically even worse than the piece of paper in your wallet (seems impossible but for Germany business as usual when it comes to anything digital).

Personally this would be one of the very few things were I would be ok with something being opt-out instead of opt-in but I don't see that happening.

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[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No, I'm one of those weird people that because my family moved to the UK when I was little in the late 80s for work for a year I'm under risk of mad cow disease and none of us can donate blood or organs. Learned that the sad way when trying to give blood in college, like half a dozen random things that can disqualify you that you might not realize.

[–] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

FYI, in Australia they scrapped the rule a couple years ago and you would've been able to donate now (at least blood, not sure about organs).

Wherever you are, maybe check again if they've relaxed the rule.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes. Probably been registered for more than 10 years now. I’m in Sweden and it was a super easy online form to fill in.

When I die there’s probably someone else who needs my organs more than me.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes because why not. I doubt they will be of much use, but feel free to harvest anything you want. It would be the most useful I've been in my existence.

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago

Yes I am. As for why, my organs will save peoples lives,

I was already a donor before my sister died but it really solidified my stance when she saved three people's lives with her kidneys and liver. They needed it more than the crematorium needed them.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My spouse and I are registered to donate our bodies to a medical college. If we can advance medicine in even a small way, it is still a move to better life and health.

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[–] pixelscript@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

As a very strong believer in Danny DeVito's quote, "When I'm dead, just throw me in the trash!", if any medical party is even remotely interested in dumpster diving for my parts when I'm done with them, they can have 'em. Better than throwing them in a box and taking up land in a cemetary. The less of my remains uselessly taking up space on this planet after death, the better. If I get my way upon my demise, anything they don't take is going into the incinerator anyway.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago

Yes, definitely.

I received a live donor kidney transplant over a decade ago, and because of that, my quality of life drastically improved, and I lived long enough to meet my kid and my nieces and nephews.

I've got complex medical issues, so my organs might not be any good, but they're going to be available when I'm gone.

[–] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Pessimistic about anything still being useful at this point, but hoping I am wrong.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago

Yes, I don't see why not. What else am I gonna do with my organs when I'm dead?

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, both to receive and give organs. I'm just not comfortable with the idea.

[–] dueuwuje@aussie.zone 15 points 8 months ago

Look to be honest I don't agree with your stance but I respect the fact that you both don't wish to donate and more importantly receive. I fell some people would be quite happy to take but not give.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 8 points 8 months ago

Not american, so that link doesn't apply to me. Here everyone is a potential donor, and the family decides. My immediate family knows full well that my organs are FFA when I don't need them anymore.

[–] Trent@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Yes. I'd like to donate my body to science too, but I want to see if there's a way to do it non-profit. I'm not interested in helping make someone rich.

[–] rei@piefed.social 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I think I'm ineligible. I think my sibling tried to register but was they were told they were ineligible because we lived in Europe in the 80's

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[–] MSugarhill@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

In Austria you have to register to NOT be an organ donor. So we have about 99% donors (after brain death). I am a donor too, as I neither care about my body once I am dead nor bother to register for anything.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not registered, but I have a organ donor card (where I approve organ donations).

Background:

Germany just recently (18th of March this year) launched an online database where you can register your preference. Until then there was only a small organ donor card that you could fill out and carry with you.

Reason I haven't registered there yet is that I first need to unlock the online function on my passport (nowadays always enabled, but I still have one from when it was optional). So I'll eventually get around to doing both.


As for my reasoning behind being a donor:

  • I would like to receive them in an emergency (or for someone I care about to do so).

  • And in case I become a donor I am not there anymore to care about what people do with my organs.

[–] argl@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

TIL, registering there right away.

I've had my donor card for a long time now (for about the same reasons as you), this solution seems at least a little better. I would still very much welcome an "opt-out" system, or something that would make the decision mandatory for everyone. You can always say no with no questions ask, but there are likely so many people that would have no problem donating but just never thought about the topic.

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[–] Blackout@kbin.run 6 points 8 months ago

Yes because hopefully someone better than me will get them and make a real difference in the world.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a shitty religion then

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think we can be a little more respectful in our disagreement no?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Just stating the obvious. If it's really religion banning donating organs, not only do they take bodily autonomy from you but also the chance to help save someone else's life. That would be a shitty religion

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[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 6 points 8 months ago

I am and I hope to have everything unsalvageable cremated

the best thing i could ever do at the last moment of my life is help someone else get a second chance

No. There are too many people on this planet.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago

No need to register in Brazil, you just have to tell your family members, as they're asked whether or not they're ok with your organs being donated. I've already told my family to, once I die, donate all of my organs that might still be in good shape

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