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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 73 points 7 months ago

I doubt the US is trying to overthrow Netanyahu, but if they were, I'm glad of it.

[–] livus@kbin.social 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just a distraction.

I mean the easiest way of overthrowing Netanyahu would be for the US to stop giving Israel money while he's in power. He'd be gone by lunchtime.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He'd be gone by lunchtime.

Why?

There's this narrative that Israel is completely dependent on US aid and would be powerless without it, but I don't think that's obviously true. What military is going to meaningfully threaten them? Jordan has no interest in another giant wave of Palestinian migrants (given that the last one led to a coup attempt), nor does it have a significant military. Lebanon hardly has a genuine government. Syria is a mess. Egypt does have some legitimate power, but also has no interest in a massive war right next to them.

The only regional power capable of meaningfully threatening Israel is Iran, and Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Sunni coalition do not want massive expansion of Iranian influence.

Not to mention, Israel has already defeated all of its neighbors, simultaneously, twice. I'm fairly confident that the only thing that would actually happen if the US stopped sending aid is a bit of a dent in the Israeli economy.

[–] livus@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My point is that I think the Israeli political establishment would rather give up Netanyahu than give up billions of dollars worth of funding and weapons from the US.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They could just as easily close ranks with support for Bibi galvanizing over perceived foreign influence in their politics. Nationalism is a powerful narcotic and the US making that move could just pump it into their veins.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel would be gone by lunch time.

[–] livus@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, as a thought experiment, I think if regime change meant continued US support they'd be safe from neighbouring countries while negotiating that change.

Given the "enemy" they are bombarding lacks the capacity to retaliate at scale no real harm would come to them if they had to just stop genociding and occupying.

They would have to concentrate their resources on defence in the normal sense of the word.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel isn't afraid of Hamas if US drops support, they're afraid of Iran and several other Arabic countries. Palestine is just testing/training grounds for their military in their own eyes.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

Exactly. This is why I think they'd be willing to trade in Netanyahu.

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago

Israel is not a protectorate of the US but an independent and democratic country whose citizens are the ones who choose the government

Okay cool, can we stop supplying weapons and Intel now?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 25 points 7 months ago

Just... stop supporting Israel? That's it. Please. If the genocide stops and Netanyahu goes down for it, we are on a less dark timeline.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

senior Israeli official says

Hmm

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Bibi taking the hasbara into his own hands

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago
[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I actually wish this was true.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 5 points 7 months ago

The next major candidate isn't any better

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 10 points 7 months ago

This would be less believable if we didn't do it so goddamn often.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 7 months ago

"The West" should just go with the ol shitty parent threat: "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it!" Lol

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago
[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago

All it'd take is an election in Israel.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

What a surprise did the puppet lose its benefits already? Or is it not doing what they want?

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 5 points 7 months ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

Why don’t they just get Boeing to deal with it?

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

What you mean they can't just fund a random terrorist organization to do it for them so they have another group to go after and demonize in 10 to 20 years like they've done to other countries countless times in the past? Wild

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

I wish. Fuck Israel.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

in reaction to the annual Threat Assessment report which warned that Netanyahu’s coalition could be replaced by a more moderate one.

Shit happens, and in this case far far too late if this is accurate. Any reaction by the US which involves you still being involved in Israeli politics instead of in custody in the Netherlands awaiting trial, you should be thanking all the neoliberal gods for, and not complaining about. There's about 95% of the world that is horrified and furious about all of this for very different reasons than that you might not get to be in charge anymore.