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My suggestion is to sell them to Ben Shapiro

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 100 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ron Guilmette, whose tennis court was destroyed in previous storms along the beach, added that he now doesn’t know how much his property is worth or if he will stay in the area. He calls the situation on Salisbury Beach “catastrophic.” “I don’t know what the solution is,”

Oh no, not your tennis court. What a shame. What a darn tragic loss for our nobility. Oh why can't the climate adjust to save your beachfront home. How could the earth be so inconsiderate for our rich land owners.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 37 points 8 months ago

Won't somebody think of the property values??!??

[–] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

Incredible how quickly one's sympathy can evaporate, isn't it?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago

To be fair a lot of these homes have been there for 50-100 years (some way older). Salisbury (and parts of Hampton just north) is relatively poor compared to much of the New England sea coast, but those look like pretty expensive homes. Just a road or 2 over is a lot lower income. lots of fishermen lived there traditionally. That part of the Atlantic coast was settled and built before the idea of public land was really well defined unlike parts of California and the west coast.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 77 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I love this story. From people banding together and building a sand barrier on the beach to stop the ocean. To the idea that they MUST know sandbags exist but they never considered why people don't just skip the bags and dump sand, to not one person mentioning climate change or sea level increase even though that's clearly the problem, to the one guy saying "it's mother nature you just have to accept it". 5 stars, would deny climate change and fix the problem with sand piles again.

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 41 points 8 months ago

The best part is that their previous sand dune was removed by storms and high tides in 2022, so their solution was to build another sand dune, which took a year, and was immediately removed by storms and high tides.

You can't make this shit up.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 8 months ago

You just know they went for sand piles because they didn't want to ruin their beachfront with more stable constructions.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Did they just dump sand in a big pile? Sand dunes are pretty well-understood ecosystems that require something underneath to anchor to as well as plants on top to stabilize them.

But also, the ocean is going to continue to rise, so any effort is likely futile. Sorry about that dude's tennis court getting ruined

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They can always sell their houses to Aquaman.

[–] GammaGames 7 points 8 months ago
[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Here's another good one: The city of Long Beach, California spends close to that much every year to do the same thing to protect mansions built on a sand bar (the Long Beach Peninsula) that are about 50 feet from the water line on a good day. They just keep constantly moving sand from one end of the beach to the other end a couple miles away. That's city money. The article below has some details, but only refers to the city saving $100k to $300k a year by bringing the work in house. The figure I've heard is more like $500k a year. I imagine it's actually higher than that, even. They have dedicated big earth movers, a built facility to store and maintain them, employees dedicated to it, etc. Do the math. This is probably happening all over the country and all over the world.

https://www.presstelegram.com/2022/12/19/long-beach-moves-its-own-beach-sand-to-protect-peninsula/

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 8 months ago

Let me guess - the beachfront property owners have offshored their wealth and pay less tax than the neighbourhoods without such exorbitant demands?

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How to I read the article with an ad blocker?

The modern web is so user hostile.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you using the latest version of uBlock Origin and Firefox? It let's me see the article with that combo.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Works with me on mobile with Brave. Must be a closed source ad blocker issue

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

I read it with an adblocker myself

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 11 points 8 months ago

Does it come with Zendaya?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] The_Che_Banana 2 points 8 months ago

the only proper response to this story