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Firefox now has speed parity with Chrome on the Speedometer benchmark (mozilla.social)

submitted 2 years ago by garam@lemmy.my.id to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1376783

Thought I'd never see the day when Firefox would match Chrome on Speedometer.

There's also a few other benchmarks got a sizable boost. https://arewefastyet.com/

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[–] dan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I wonder how much of this is Firefox getting better and how much is Chrome getting worse...

[–] laxe@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Why is Chromium slower than Chrome?

[–] Xyz3R@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The real question

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

~~Wild guess: APM? ~~

Edit:
It seems that chromium here on these benchmarks is unoptimized and it depends on what flags where enabled during building time: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/6q3AyYacjOo/m/XKQMdW4fBgAJ

[–] CrescentMadeJr 1 points 2 years ago

Chromium is the base. Google adds a lot of proprietary code to make it Chrome.

[–] EmielBlom@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice! Although I have been using Firefox for years and never felt there was an issue with speed. Always been reliable for me.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same here. And wasn't some of that speed difference artificial? Didn't Google serve their pages slower on FF on purpose for a while? "Do no evil" and all...

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never heard of that before. It wouldn't take much for me to believe it though. Anyone have a link?

[–] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Normally I'd let you Google it, but given the topic

Link

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

People stop using chrome.its not good for you nor for the internet.

[–] mvee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What if I just... Spoof a Firefox user agent?? 😅

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That'll work but why not install firefox?

[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Firefox is great.. and we must use it at all cost

#eh /jk, no forcing, but Firefox indeed great!

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

No no people need to be forced to use Firefox. How else will they see the greatness?

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

And enjoy your ads?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

I switched to Chrome a few years back because Firefox kept deleting my bookmarks.

[–] sarsaparilyptus@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that's even considering the fact that Google deliberately throttles Firefox on their sites

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that relevant for the benchmarks?

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 2 years ago

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The graph totally threw me off, first I thought this post was a joke that Firefox got slower and is now as slow as Chrome.

For some dumb reason the y-axis shows the score, but it's inverted..

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's inverted because on most occasions the y axis represents time, so less is better.

In order to avoid having bemchmarks where a lower result on the Y-axis is worse, they kind of invert it for scores.

I know it is confusing, but it helps non-technical people.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Firefox has been and will continue to be the best browser available

[–] iod@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Firefox in general is faster for me than Chrome in many pages

However a notable exception are web games and web based game emulators. They're a lot slower on Firefox and i get horrible sound crackling whereas on Chrome its much better. It's been like this for years with no seeming improvement.

[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 1 points 2 years ago

Please open bug ticket in Mozilla Bugzilla. It will help the Firefox development further. 🎊

[–] Forcen@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://arewefastyet.com/

I think this is the page that the screenshot is from:

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you are on linux wayland, enable wayland mode for firefox and enjoy the huge performance boost

[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 1 points 2 years ago

Sadly I'm using XFCE, and XFCE isn't ready for wayland, so I will keep waiting until wayland stable enough on XFCE. Other DE isn't suiting my taste tbh. well it's mater of preference, but XFCE is stable roboust DE for me to keep me focus on works

[–] IrrelevantBoB@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Librewolf.

[–] Distributed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Lags behind on updates by a few days, which is a non negotiable for me. I use normal FF + Arkenfox User.js

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Great, now implement modern exploit mitigations and sandboxing like Chrome uses. Firefox is objectively less resistant to exploitation. Some Firefox security has improved since the article was written, such as some sandboxing on Windows, but it's definitely not as mature.

I'm not writing that Firefox is insecure. Security is very important to Firefox! However, Chrome has had more work done in the realm of browser hardening.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is fair, but Chrome is undeniably more open to corporate exploitation. See things like the dramatically reduced utility of ad blockers on Chromium browsers.

I guess it depends on who you see as the greater threat at present.

[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 1 points 2 years ago

This is why I use Firefox! For freedom.

[–] ReepusVanguard@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why does anyone use chome, its way worse then any other browser you can install, they put so much junk on it.

[–] richyawyingtmv@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Forced to with work.

I utterly hate it. I don't have it on my personal setup or android mobile - been using Firefox for twenty years now, not gonna stop!

[–] unceme@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

There's a lot of non-Chrome Chromium browsers.

[–] MumboAttribute7322@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I wonder how battery usage compares on a MacBook between these 2 and Safari.

[–] garam@lemmy.my.id 0 points 2 years ago

Safari will always win because they are optimized to the HW and only for that HW...

Same as edge.. I do have some hack on Linux, but it sacrifice js capabilities and background pages, but achieve the same as safari in Mac or Edge on Windows

https://superuser.com/a/1500728

[–] Morphior@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have been using Firefox for basically as long as I can remember and I love it. However, there's one website that I go to Chromium for: GeoGuessr/Google Street View. For some reason it's unbelievably slow and sluggish in Firefox whereas it works normally in Chromium. Why could this be? To be clear, it's only the Street View part (and moving/panning/zooming) that's slow on GeoGuessr.

[–] blueson@feddit.nu 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me if the implementation has bias towards Chromium based browsers as both street view and Chromium are from Google.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

They were literally caught artificially slowing down page loads and responsiveness on non-chrome browsers a while back.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago

I stopped using Firefox because it had issues playing videos. I also ran into a number of web sites that were displayed badly.

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