I was interested in buying a Steam Deck... Until I discovered all the (apparently) better alternatives. Asus Rog Ally, OneXPlayer, Aya Neo etc... I like the idea of an handheld console and obviously I would like to have a device that can run almost everything, so the Windows based handhelds seem better than the Steam Deck. Is it true? Furthermore the Steam Deck looks really big compared to some new devices out there (eg the OneXFly) and neither I like the screen of the Steam Deck, apparently of lower res and with very big bazels (to me looks like the first Nintendo Switch). On the other hand, I think Valve is a more serious company than (apart from Asus) some other unknown Chinese company and I expect Valve to deliver a better product. Still I'm not convinced of Steam OS compared to Windows 11, since I would like to play also Epic games and maybe some emulators. So I started getting information about the alternatives and... There are a lot. There are so many that I got overwhelmed. If you go to the OneXPlayer website they sell like 3-4 different handheld consoles, Aya Neo even more and they also have IndieGoGo campaigns running for new devices, all with weird names. I can't understand what's the device right for me (and I really don't understand their business model). So my question is: are the rivals of the Steam Deck worth their price? Are they really better than the Steam Deck (in terms of quality, screen, size)? Thank you for your opinion!
UPDATE: I finally bought a refurbished 256GB Steam Deck.
I have a ROG Ally and a Steam Deck. The Steam Deck experience is miles ahead. Windows is such a limitation on these handheld devices (and dare I say PC gaming in general). SteamOS is the real MVP behind the Steam Deck, it makes everything feel seamless.
The Ally feels like a crappy ASUS launcher stapled on top of an unoptimized Windows desktop, since that's exactly what it is.
Also, the ASUS ROG Ally controls are nowhere near as nice as the Deck's. The Deck sticks feel better. The touchpads allow for mouse control.
Get the Deck.
Yeah, the Rog Ally got the more powerful hardware, but this is a good example how power isn't everything.
Nintendo smashing the console market twice with underpowered hardware proved that.
Hopefully Microsoft releases a handheld mode instead of just experimenting with it. Besides the interface, they also really need to optimize for performance. Even though, with the steam deck, proton is converting draw calls it still outperforms the same deck running windows with native driver support. This really shows how the mountains of extra crap running on windows hurts gaming performance on these low power devices.
Hopefully Microsoft fades into irrelevance. I'm glad the Steam Deck is doing something about Microsoft's control over the PC gaming market. I'm also glad Microsoft is losing in the handheld gaming PC experience. Let Windows die already, it's long overdue (especially given the continued and intensifying enshittification of the OS every release cycle).
Yeah, that's not going to happen in a world where Gamepass is their new focus and those apps only work on Windows.
Hopefully this "you will own nothing and be happy" BS also fades into irrelevance. I hate how everything has to be a subscription these days. No. Just NO.
I refuse to move to subscription based platforms. It's anti-consumer lock-in. Unfortunately, right now, gamepass is cheap because they're still in the growth phase and need a compelling product to get people to switch from buying their games to subscribing. However, believe me, in time the enshittification will come. What subscription-based platform hasn't once it captured the market?
I mean, they'll have to make some big changes to Gamepass before it becomes worse value than buying all those games outright. Most subs are still pretty good value now for the level of content, available, they're just not as cheap as they were when they were driving users.
That's exactly the point though. Until they corner the market and start "deprecating" actual game sales entirely, they have to keep gamepass appealing. If they get to the point where enough people have adopted gamepass that they can stop selling games outright, then they're free to raise the prices all they want. What are you going to do about it, buy the games instead? Not an option anymore. Buy the games, keep your rights as a consumer.
Get a PS5? I've been back and forth between the two platforms for several generations now depending on who's offering the best service.
Fuck no, moving to a console is the opposite of consumer freedom lol. Steam seems to be the levelest of heads in the gaming space, making an open platform OS and "console" and not tying people into nasty subscriptions to be able to play their games. Plus, regular sales with usually quite good discounts. While they still offer DRM and allow it on their store, they have plenty of DRM-free offerings and don't discourage you from running third party games/launchers on their machine.
I'm wondering how PC gaming will look like if Windows fades into irrelevance.
Are developers going to keep releasing Windows build as it's the easiest way to get your game working on all Linux distributions?
Is Windows going to be reduced to an API to write games on Linux?
Although I would love to see it, as long as DirectX is the de facto graphics API, I don’t see Microsoft fading into irrelevance when it comes to the PC gaming market.
I believe Vulkan can help with that.
I haven’t used other handhelds, but what you say is what I’ve seen from other discussions and reviews. Yes, there are more powerful systems with better screens, but the SD’s OS is miles ahead (but not without a lot of quirks as well). The touchpads are incredible - I couldn’t imagine trying to use a handheld PC without those touchpads. Also, the custom control configuration abilities built in to steam OS are incredibly versatile and detailed.
Ive used the Ally and I would agree. The hardware is great and feels good in hand, but Valve is going to have much more to gain by supporting the software of the deck as much as possible.
The steam deck definitely shipped undercooked, but Valve has made amazing strides to make it a reliable and versatile experience.
I use a steam deck dock to hook it to my TV, but A LOT of the time im using it in desktop mode in this setup. I get crisp 1080p out and its a fantastic experience for playing youtube and twitch from the couch.
Both are great options! Just to counterbalance arguments against:
I can't buy a Steam Deck in Australia, but I can buy the ROG Ally.
Windows can be clunky, but that less-than-stellar experience is limited to navigating and launching games. The stock launcher works fine, it's just bare-bones. You can set Steam to launch into big picture on boot at which point it's the same experience as the Steam Deck anyway.
All games install and run, there's absolutely no dicking around required compared to some experiences on Steam Deck.
Touch controls are nice. 120hz VRR 1080p screen is a better draw imo as it's universally applicable to all games. That screen makes sub-60fps experiences much nicer and has better colours and contrast and uniformity (not to mention resolution).
ROG Ally cooling system is really great, and really quiet. I don't feel like there's a desktop machine wedged between my hands.
The ROG Ally performance isn't what ASUS sold, but it's still a good bit faster than Steam Deck, and most games I've tried I can hit a visual and performance fidelity roughly on par with an Xbox Series S. Which ain't bad at all.
Both are convenent and versitile systems, I think probably Steam Deck is more convenient whereas ROG Ally is more versatile.
I really bought the ROG Ally to experiment with Linux on it. I think it is getting there. I have Arch Linux with chimera kernel on mine as well as gamescope-session which allows it to function very similarly to the Steam Deck, but at the moment it seems TDP control isn't working so games don't run as well as they should. I also can't get the ROG button to work as a Steam button even though that should be working according to ChimeraOS. I wanted Arch because it allows for dual booting vs. Chimera which does not, as well as for development purposes. I think the hardware of the Ally is solid, though I still hold that the Deck's controls are much better. Once the Ally is better supported on Linux I think it would be a better option, as I refuse to use Windows anymore except for testing/reverse engineering purposes.
Handheld Companion are doing good work implementing better controller options (including gyro) and power management (including autoTDP) and I believe will have napping to the OEM keys sorted out eventually. If that sort of stuff could go into a distro I could see Arch or ChimeraOS being really interesting options. Hopefully the ROG Ally sells well and there's a community to support it in this way, it could be great!
The Deck's power management features are a solid selling point. There's no reason they couldn't be implemented elsewhere, and it would be a boon for other portable devices for sure.
I haven't used the Ally, but the Deck's touchpads are just intuitive and functional, it seems so obvious in hindsight that it's actually shocking that nobody had thought to put them on a portable until now. They work great for replacing a mouse in mouse-focused games, and for navigating desktop mode. Much more effective than navigating with a joystick.
I would have loved to see something like that on the Ally. It's very situational, but I can imagine in those situations it feels great (I own a Steam Controller, so I've used something very similar).
I think if you had a chance to see the Ally screen in person you might have a similar feeling. It changes the experience a lot.
For example, Diablo 4 with upscaling and the right settings is a 1080p experience, so text is crisp and UI elements are clear. At those settings in 15w I get mostly 60fps in dungeons, when things get hectic and the frames drop to 45 or 50 the VRR makes it hard to notice. Fan noise and heat aren't really notable either, I just wish there was a little more battery to round that all out.
I feel like the Deck's 800p screen is plenty for the size, and it helps it perform better. But maybe that's just my boomer eyes that can't tell the difference. Though a bigger screen would have been amazing.
1080p is a more flexible choice though. You can always just set it to 720p for better performance. Or upscale to 1080p or drop the internal render resolution so the UI remains 1080 while the game itself renders 720. You gain many options and lose none (other than just battery).
All of those are visually worse than rendering at native resolution though.
I think battery life is an important factor since these are high-drain portable devices. Any additional battery life you can squeeze out of it is a big plus.
Not really. A screen of that size is really forgiving. I'm not sure if you have seen the Ally in person? In a lot of games you can turn some GPU intensive settings down or upscaling on and it's not nearly as noticeable. The sharpness really stands out though.
Anyway, you seem pretty thrilled with the Steam Deck, which is great. I'm just pointing out that there are some pretty sweet perks with the Ally (there's plenty of downsides too). All the best!
I wouldn't say I'm thrilled, I still use my PC a lot more. I'd say the dual touchpads are probably the best feature for the form factor. And I think the power management features are great, but that's just software, and I think the other platforms should implement similar systems.
Fair enough. I can't even buy a Steam Deck in Australia so I'm pretty happy the ROG Ally exists and is what it is. Maybe we get the Steam Deck 2 done day, I would be keen to check it out.