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What is unnecessary gendered? (self.askbeehaw)

submitted 1 year ago by Idrunkenlysignedup to c/askbeehaw

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I was watching pro golf coverage on the news and it seems so odd that men and women compete separately - same goes with pro bowling. Just seems weird to me that a game of skill is gendered when you can't even raise an argument that someone might have an advantage because of what's between their legs.

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[–] rambaroo 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cis women generally can't drive as far as men, which is why they play from different tees. I'd guess that's part of the reason they play separately.

[–] dhork 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. I'm all for gender equality and not treating trans people like second class citizens, but let's not pretend that gender has nothing to do with all sports. I don't play golf, so I did some looking around on the subject, and it seems like the womens' courses are shorter than the men's, for precisely the reason you describe. And some people think they need to be even shorter, because at the pro level LPGA scores are generally worse than PGA scores, even with the current course length difference. I infer that the technological advances that are affecting sports equipment have a much larger positive effect on the men's game than the women's, so tech is permitting the men to drive longer while not having quite the same effect for women.

I get all this from this USA today article, but it matches what I've read elsewhere:

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/03/16/lpga-golf-course-setups-womens-golf-pga-tour/

Now, with all this said, I think that any decisions to limit sports participation based on gender (and the implications for trans people) should be made by the people who govern the sport itself, because they have the most data, and also the best idea of what good competition looks like in their sport. I don't have any confidence that politicians can make decisions on this in good faith, no matter how many golf courses they own.